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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:16pm
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Player control signal?

When I call a player control foul, what should I do with the other hand? It feels weird to just let it dangle, and it is hard to be emphatic about placing your signalling hand and arm behind your head. It has no oomph. I have resorting to doing a pseudo team control-punch with the other hand. Is this wrong? Is there a better alternative?
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:20pm
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I know this is not by the book, but everywhere I have been the custom (among officials, not hardline evaluators) is just to do the punch for an offensive foul at the time of calling, regardless of type.

Then when reporting, just the hand behind head and verbalizing player-control if that is what the particular call was.

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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:24pm
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I don't even use the player control signal...at the spot nor at the table. It might be one of the weakest officiating signals in all of sport. I use the team control punch.
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:24pm
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:27pm
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if one hand is behind my head the other one is pointing the direction we will now be going.
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That is what I do.

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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:29pm
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I don't even use the player control signal...at the spot nor at the table. It might be one of the weakest officiating signals in all of sport. I use the team control punch.
I absolutely agree and wish I could just go with this always. I have had evaluators rip me, repeatedly, because I "do not have a sufficient understanding of basic mechanics" because I don't do a by-the-book PC call.

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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:32pm
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I absolutely agree and wish I could just go with this always. I have had evaluators rip me, repeatedly, because I "do not have a sufficient understanding of basic mechanics" because I don't do a by-the-book PC call.

Stupid...
I'm guessing they'd get on you for using fists on the hips for a block instead of hands on the hip (which is another weak signal)...but when in Rome.
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:34pm
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I had a PC last night. Just came out with the punch. When I reported, used the PC signal. I rarely go behind the head on the initial play anymore.
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:35pm
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I'm guessing they'd get on you for using fists on the hips for a block instead of hands on the hip (which is another weak signal)...but when in Rome.
Oh yes, I have been dinged for that one too... and yet when the same person officiates guess what I see?
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:36pm
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I'm guessing they'd get on you for using fists on the hips for a block instead of hands on the hip (which is another weak signal)...but when in Rome.
Agreed. Initial call, use the fist. At the table I go with the hands.
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:39pm
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Oh yes, I have been dinged for that one too... and yet when the same person officiates guess what I see?
Don't know your experience level but if you are relatively new or trying to move up to the the observor's level one of the things they want to know is if you do know all the proper mechanics.

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When I call a player control foul, what should I do with the other hand? It feels weird to just let it dangle, and it is hard to be emphatic about placing your signalling hand and arm behind your head. It has no oomph. I have resorting to doing a pseudo team control-punch with the other hand. Is this wrong? Is there a better alternative?
i put the other hand on my hip and then shake back and forth a bit.

this also works for a self-called blarge.
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