Team Control Signal

[bigdog5142]

I just want to make sure about the signal for a team control foul. The fist is raised to stop play and then...is it a "punch" with a fist or just an extended fist straight in front of the body? There wasn't such a thing as a team control foul when I officiated 8 years ago! Starting HS ball tomorrow night once again! I'm excited...but nervous.

[JRutledge]

1. Stop Clock
2. Foul signal (Push, Block)
3. Team Control Signal

That is the procedure but many times it is not followed. No big deal. I just feel you need to inform everyone you have a Team Control Foul.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

1. Stop Clock
2. Foul signal (Push, Block)
3. Team Control Signal

That is the procedure but many times it is not followed. No big deal. I just feel you need to inform everyone you have a Team Control Foul.

Is that the specific ILLINOIS mechanic? Could you please clarify? Is the OP from ILLINOIS and you are only speaking to him about how it is done in your state?
See, you never bother to make it clear.

Because you are WRONG for NFHS mechanics.
The correct NFHS mechanic order is:
1. Fist straight up
2. Punch signal in front of body to indicate team-control foul
3. Preliminary signal for the nature of the foul
4. Indicate the throw-in spot

That comes directly from page 5 of last season's NFHS Basketball preseason guide.

[Nevadaref]

According to this thread, the OP is from Michigan, not Illinois.

White Uniforms - Michigan

[JRutledge]

Actually Nevada, no one here gets their panties in a bunch about it either way. I have never heard anyone claim there is a right or wrong sequence or even seen anyone get upset if you do not use a specific order. And if you read what I said, I did not say this was an "organizational" sequence. Nor do I care because the last time I checked (I will repeat myself again) I do not work for the NF and the NF has no say over what sequence is used in or out of my state.

I will give a better example. I have for years been encouraged to call an out of bounds play with one arm. I have never read anything in the books I have from the NF that this is required. This is usually encouraged or expected in this state, but the NF does not address the issue.

If you want to give the NF prospective that is fine. Realize that everyone is not under that procedure and the OP did not ask what the NF does specifically.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Three little words, iRut.

YOU WERE WRONG.

Too bad that you can't bring yourself to admit that.

The OP certainly wasn't asking for how it is done in Illinois.

BTW, "organizational" sequence, whatever the heck you mean by that redundancy. You are so full of sh!t. You wrote, "That is the procedure..." and even numbered the steps 1, 2, and 3.

You just have too big of an ego to admit your mistakes.

[bigdog5142]

Boys...boys...break it up!

Thanks for the clarification...it sounds like it's treated like a player control foul to an extent. However, more signals are required as it's either a block or a push...not just a player control. Got another varsity assignment tonight...continuing to get pumped about this season!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigdog5142

Boys...boys...break it up!

Thanks for the clarification...it sounds like it's treated like a player control foul to an extent. However, more signals are required as it's either a block or a push...not just a player control. Got another varsity assignment tonight...continuing to get pumped about this season!

I will say that you are right. You see many forms of the signals and everyone lives as a result.

Congratulations on your assignments. You will be fine. I am sure there are people that feel all kinds of ways as to what to do and what not to do. Just figure out what that is and do it. Believe it or not most people get their officiating license from their state.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

My congrats as well bd. Glad to hear that you are getting back into it after some years away.

PS Most people acknowledge that other states besides the one in which they reside do exist.

[bigdog5142]

I've really missed officiating...I just didn't feel like I had the time to do it before now...I pretty much stopped when I got married in 1999. I did some rec/church leagues...but nothing official. I've done some JH boys coaching the last three years and figured...if I can coach, I can certainly ref! So...I'm back...and loving it.

[PS2Man]

I hate to break it to some people but I have worked in 4 states. Each state followed different mechanics. What the National Federation puts out is not what everyone is required to do. I have had to change my ideals every time I moved to a different area.