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4 on the floor
I asked about having 6 players on the floor after a TO, how about if you have 4 instead, would you say to the coach, "you've only got 4"?
If a player returns to the floor late it's a "T" 10-2-5f. |
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First, there isn't a 10-2-5f. Rule 10-2 only has two articles, unless something was left out of the online rule book.
Second, there's a case book play for this: Quote:
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To your first question: Absolutely...this game is intended to be played 5-on-5 when possible (and before Billy comes in with a what-if, this is assuming no special circumstances)
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To the OP: don't resume play without exactly 5 for each team. I have never called this T.
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The case play is 10.1.9. In the case play, the team gets a distinct advantage by not having everyone return to the floor at the same time after the time-out. But notice that the case play doesn't say the technical is given because of the added advantage. It's strictly because they didn't bring 5 on the court after the time-out, whether there's an advantage or not.
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The rule is 10-1-9. I used a 2011-12 online rule book by mistake.
Sorry. I have never called this and I have never called having 6 players on the floor. We actually had it happen Saturday night. During a FT, sub comes in, sub goes out, but is told he is not the one coming out, we give the ball to FT shooter, he shoots and I hear the coach say "Jimmy, get off the court" I turn to see him coming off. I count and realize that we had 6 players. I go to lead official and say " B had 6 players, are we going to call a "T"?" Partner says, no the clock never started. I know that the ball was live, but I don't want to make a big deal out of it, it's a 10 point game with under 2 mins to go. Shooting coach didn't make a deal of it. We moved on. |
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Had a situation a few weeks ago. Forget the exact circumstances, but I beckoned substitutes B10 and B11. B1 heads to the bench, but I've still got 6 players and I don't let the ball become live. Finally, B2 realizes he's been replaced and he heads to the bench. 5-on-5, ball becomes live. As A1 is bringing the ball up the floor, B's head coach, still thinking he has 6 in the game, reaches onto the floor, grabs B3 by the jersey, and yanks him off the court. So we now have 4-on-5. About 3 seconds later, B's HC realizes his mistake, and B3 sprints back onto the court.
A's fans and coaches are generally losing their mind, demanding a technical foul, "how could we not see that," etc., etc. In accordance with the 10.3.2 case play, we didn't call anything because B3's return was not deceitful, nor did B gain any advantage from it. Honestly, I think I'm the only one that saw what happened; when I brought it up at our meeting the following week, my partners didn't remember that had happened, and several others were saying we should have whacked B's head coach for grabbing his player and pulling him off the floor. (Haven't found any rule support for that idea.) Thoughts? |
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We don't have a case play that talks about this specifically, but I'd be tempted to apply that ruling at any level; because if we're shooting free throws with no rebounding action, then the team doesn't seem to have 6 players "participating" in the game.
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Now in a NFHS game, I could see passing on this if it's during a free throw(s) that will not remain in play and just correcting the issue.
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