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Old Mon Jan 07, 2013, 03:03pm
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Not necessarily passing judgement with this statement: it looks as though the new L made the blocking call "on the run", whereas, the C seemed to be hustling to the play and was in the proper position. He was on the move too, but was moving in the same direction as the play. The L was moving towards the baseline while looking over his shoulder more or less to make the call.
I don't get your point. A lot of us do this several times a game and have to make the decision to 1) make a call, 2) make the necessary position adjustments to keep from getting stacked or 3) don't make a call because it would be guessing.

Can we agree that it is possible to run to a position and see that a defender is standing in one spot? If so, even though the official was stacked, he should have see the offensive player go to and thru the defender. I look at this as not using sound play-calling mechanics: did the defender obtain LGP, was the defender in the offensive player's path, did the defender maintain LGP, etc.

Hey, we all get plays wrong and this one would surely be graded IC.
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Old Mon Jan 07, 2013, 03:09pm
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I don't get your point. A lot of us do this several times a game and have to make the decision to 1) make a call, 2) make the necessary position adjustments to keep from getting stacked or 3) don't make a call because it would be guessing.

Can we agree that it is possible to run to a position and see that a defender is standing in one spot? If so, even though the official was stacked, he should have see the offensive player go to and thru the defender. I look at this as not using sound play-calling mechanics: did the defender obtain LGP, was the defender in the offensive player's path, did the defender maintain LGP, etc.

Hey, we all get plays wrong and this one would surely be graded IC.
Just an innocuous observation. Could it have affected the calling official's ability to see the play? Maybe. He's probably a much better official than me, though. In any event, I agree with your assertions. Although, I'm always more comfortable assessing block/charge action when I'm more or less standing still. Not always a luxury we have, though, as you mentioned.
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Old Mon Jan 07, 2013, 03:16pm
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I don't get your point. A lot of us do this several times a game and have to make the decision to 1) make a call, 2) make the necessary position adjustments to keep from getting stacked or 3) don't make a call because it would be guessing.

Can we agree that it is possible to run to a position and see that a defender is standing in one spot? If so, even though the official was stacked, he should have see the offensive player go to and thru the defender. I look at this as not using sound play-calling mechanics: did the defender obtain LGP, was the defender in the offensive player's path, did the defender maintain LGP, etc.

Hey, we all get plays wrong and this one would surely be graded IC.
Exactly.

Worked a game last week where we had several blocking fouls against one team. Coach asked each one of us (after different fouls) why they were blocks.

Each of us answered that the defender moved forward after the offensive player went airborne. Easy to see if you go through the progression, as you mentioned.
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Old Mon Jan 07, 2013, 06:03pm
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My 2 cents

I'm very comfortable with the L making the call here. If you look at this entire play, he has one defender that will make this play difficult and it's the kid who attempts to take the charge.

The C doesn't have a better look than the L and I would say has a slightly worse look.

From the angle of the camera, it looks like a player control, 100%. However, it could have been that the defender leaned his upper torso into the pathway of the offensive player and we can't see that from this angle.

So I'm not so quick to judge Incorrect Call from this limited angle. With that said, I didn't like that the L was late at arriving to the spot and never got settled to receive the play.
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