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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:13am
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Yes, I see that now.

Quite frankly, I think it's too nitpicky, regardless. Unlikely I would have a travel there.
Why not call it?
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I cannot see the travel at all. The left foot seems to be the pivot foot and that did not move until the ball was put on the floor for the dribble. I think the official anticipated.

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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:23am
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Thats good reason not to call a violation.
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I got right foot down, left foot in air when possession is gained. Left foot is put down then right foot is lifted and re-planted before dribble is started.
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The official was correct. He only needed to see it once in real time. It's a travel. Would I call it even though I needed the slow motion version, to verify, after the real-time clip? If I am able to catch it, quite likely yes I would.
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Why not call it?
If I need 5 views of a YouTube video just to tell which foot is the pivot foot, it's unlikely I see it in real time. On top of that, if I'm trying to call it this fine, one of two things happen:

(1) I'm the only person in the gym who sees the travel. What good is it for me to be the ONLY person to see it and call it? If the one team is pissed that I called it and the other team thinks they've just gotten a huge break, why did I call it in the first place?

(2) More importantly, if I set my filter this low, it means I'm much more likely to call a travel that isn't really a travel.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:40am
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If I need 5 views of a YouTube video just to tell which foot is the pivot foot, it's unlikely I see it in real time. On top of that, if I'm trying to call it this fine, one of two things happen:

(1) I'm the only person in the gym who sees the travel. What good is it for me to be the ONLY person to see it and call it? If the one team is pissed that I called it and the other team thinks they've just gotten a huge break, why did I call it in the first place?

(2) More importantly, if I set my filter this low, it means I'm much more likely to call a travel that isn't really a travel.

It only takes 1 video. Officials are to call the game regardless of score, situation. If you are the only person in the gym who sees it, that's a good thing.
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It only takes 1 video. Officials are to call the game regardless of score, situation. If you are the only person in the gym who sees it, that's a good thing.
I don't agree with this in all cases. Blowout, losing team in BC travels at start of dribble. No pressure. I might conveniently miss this one.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:45am
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... If you are the only person in the gym who sees it, that's a good thing.
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I don't agree with this in all cases.
Jugs is correct, but I think that is something you worry about as you rise up the chain. At the beginning of your career call what you see and hopefully you have good mentors and observers to help you start filtering.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:02pm
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Yes, the right foot is the pivot as it touches the floor first after he catches the pass.

No, as good as I am, I would not catch that.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:28pm
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Yes, the right foot is the pivot as it touches the floor first after he catches the pass.

No, as good as I am, I would not catch that.
Third year guy here and I have no travel and I'm not that good. Too tough to see in real time and doesn't pass the "Elephant vs. Ants" test, even in slow motion, and especially if I've got to look at it three or four times. Pasadena in my games.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:49pm
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I read it somewhere. Once I find it I will share.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:52pm
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As many years as you is my answer. Happy Holidays.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:43pm
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As many years as you is my answer. Happy Holidays.
You're quickly getting the reputation of being the latest troll to come around these parts. I guess time will tell if you are or if you aren't.
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As many years as you is my answer. Happy Holidays.

Well, if that's true, then you've not learned much in your 24 years of officiating the game.
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