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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:47am
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Travel or Not?



Or rather would you call this or not?
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Doesn't look like the left foot ever moves after he gets possession. No travel.
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In regular time, it's hard to see actually which foot is the pivot. In slow motion, the right is the pivot as it's the first to come down after control is established, he picks up the right before ball is released on a dribble...yes on travel.
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Travel or not

Close call. Not a travel. Left foot pivot. I was looking for the bunny hop on that foot. Did not see it.
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In regular time, it's hard to see actually which foot is the pivot. In slow motion, the right is the pivot as it's the first to come down after control is established, he picks up the right before ball is released on a dribble...yes on travel.
Yes, I see that now.

Quite frankly, I think it's too nitpicky, regardless. Unlikely I would have a travel there.
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Yes, I see that now.

Quite frankly, I think it's too nitpicky, regardless. Unlikely I would have a travel there.
Yes, I'm not calling here either.
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I had the left foot as the pivot, but Indiana's comment made me take another look. Indeed, the right came down first, and therefore was the pivot. He hopped on his right = travel.

Still, I think the official saw the left as the pivot, which he kept down until the dribble started.
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Yes, I see that now.

Quite frankly, I think it's too nitpicky, regardless. Unlikely I would have a travel there.
Why not call it?
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I cannot see the travel at all. The left foot seems to be the pivot foot and that did not move until the ball was put on the floor for the dribble. I think the official anticipated.

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Why not call it?
If I need 5 views of a YouTube video just to tell which foot is the pivot foot, it's unlikely I see it in real time. On top of that, if I'm trying to call it this fine, one of two things happen:

(1) I'm the only person in the gym who sees the travel. What good is it for me to be the ONLY person to see it and call it? If the one team is pissed that I called it and the other team thinks they've just gotten a huge break, why did I call it in the first place?

(2) More importantly, if I set my filter this low, it means I'm much more likely to call a travel that isn't really a travel.
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Thats good reason not to call a violation.
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I got right foot down, left foot in air when possession is gained. Left foot is put down then right foot is lifted and re-planted before dribble is started.
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The official was correct. He only needed to see it once in real time. It's a travel. Would I call it even though I needed the slow motion version, to verify, after the real-time clip? If I am able to catch it, quite likely yes I would.
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If I need 5 views of a YouTube video just to tell which foot is the pivot foot, it's unlikely I see it in real time. On top of that, if I'm trying to call it this fine, one of two things happen:

(1) I'm the only person in the gym who sees the travel. What good is it for me to be the ONLY person to see it and call it? If the one team is pissed that I called it and the other team thinks they've just gotten a huge break, why did I call it in the first place?

(2) More importantly, if I set my filter this low, it means I'm much more likely to call a travel that isn't really a travel.

It only takes 1 video. Officials are to call the game regardless of score, situation. If you are the only person in the gym who sees it, that's a good thing.
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It only takes 1 video. Officials are to call the game regardless of score, situation. If you are the only person in the gym who sees it, that's a good thing.
I don't agree with this in all cases. Blowout, losing team in BC travels at start of dribble. No pressure. I might conveniently miss this one.
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