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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:40am
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If I need 5 views of a YouTube video just to tell which foot is the pivot foot, it's unlikely I see it in real time. On top of that, if I'm trying to call it this fine, one of two things happen:

(1) I'm the only person in the gym who sees the travel. What good is it for me to be the ONLY person to see it and call it? If the one team is pissed that I called it and the other team thinks they've just gotten a huge break, why did I call it in the first place?

(2) More importantly, if I set my filter this low, it means I'm much more likely to call a travel that isn't really a travel.

It only takes 1 video. Officials are to call the game regardless of score, situation. If you are the only person in the gym who sees it, that's a good thing.
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It only takes 1 video. Officials are to call the game regardless of score, situation. If you are the only person in the gym who sees it, that's a good thing.
I don't agree with this in all cases. Blowout, losing team in BC travels at start of dribble. No pressure. I might conveniently miss this one.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:45am
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... If you are the only person in the gym who sees it, that's a good thing.
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I don't agree with this in all cases.
Jugs is correct, but I think that is something you worry about as you rise up the chain. At the beginning of your career call what you see and hopefully you have good mentors and observers to help you start filtering.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:02pm
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Yes, the right foot is the pivot as it touches the floor first after he catches the pass.

No, as good as I am, I would not catch that.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:28pm
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Yes, the right foot is the pivot as it touches the floor first after he catches the pass.

No, as good as I am, I would not catch that.
Third year guy here and I have no travel and I'm not that good. Too tough to see in real time and doesn't pass the "Elephant vs. Ants" test, even in slow motion, and especially if I've got to look at it three or four times. Pasadena in my games.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:49pm
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Travel or not

I read it somewhere. Once I find it I will share.
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As many years as you is my answer. Happy Holidays.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:43pm
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As many years as you is my answer. Happy Holidays.
You're quickly getting the reputation of being the latest troll to come around these parts. I guess time will tell if you are or if you aren't.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:33pm
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You're quickly getting the reputation of being the latest troll to come around these parts. I guess time will tell if you are or if you aren't.
Sorry Mr. Administrator. It seems that you want treads to go in one direction which you control. Really don't understand this trolling thing. I wonder who made it up. I was giving my opinion. People opinions should not be censored unless of course profanity is used among other things.

My apologihies if I upset the Furor during the Holiday season. Thanks for responding. God bless and good night.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:56pm
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Sorry Mr. Administrator. It seems that you want treads to go in one direction which you control. Really don't understand this trolling thing. I wonder who made it up. I was giving my opinion. People opinions should not be censored unless of course profanity is used among other things.

My apologihies if I upset the Furor during the Holiday season. Thanks for responding. God bless and good night.
I don't care the way the threads go or what your opinions are. I'm just giving my opinion that your posts are intentionally cryptic and that's typically what our frequent trolls do.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:43pm
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As many years as you is my answer. Happy Holidays.

Well, if that's true, then you've not learned much in your 24 years of officiating the game.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:12pm
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OMG!! Is that what happens when you have 24 years under your belt? Start name calling. Your 24 years you can't be a better human being. So sad!! I must of said something that made you wet your Depends
One thing that isn't going be tolerated around here are personal attacks.

So have a nice Christmas and come back in a few days and we'll see if you can act nicely around here.
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Not a travel for me.
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It only takes 1 video. Officials are to call the game regardless of score, situation. If you are the only person in the gym who sees it, that's a good thing.
This might be true at levels where every possession is watched on film and nitpicked.

At the high school level, at least in my experience, having too fine a filter on traveling will make you "that guy" (the traveling guy) really quickly.

That said, I don't have the view of the official on the court -- from there, I may have clearly seen a travel and called it. I can only go with the look I'm given, which is the video.
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MTD, Jr., and I watched this play together. When watching it in real time W1 caught the ball while both feet were in the air and landed with both feet touching the court simultaneously. W1's momentum caused most of his weight to be on his left foot and he continued his movement by lifting his right foot to start a cross over move; this is not traveling. Even in slow motion it does not look like traveling.

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