Simply But Yet so Hard..sometimes

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by stir22

Don't ask the kids,"okay, who touched it last?"

The only time that this technique could be used is in a one person game, and if you officiate long enough, you will eventually work a one person game. Most of the time the kids are pretty honest and the game is better without a bunch of extra alternating possession situations.

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Really? then please provide some examples, because I don't see that (and don't recall it from my early years of officiating)

(Note that I'm not saying you are wrong -- just that with specific examples we might be able to give additional specific advice in addition to the good general advice already contained in this thread.)

Hi Bob...

I have experienced being questioned often OOB calls from middle school games to JV level and summer rec too. Especially when its under the basket and goes out on the endline in tight quarters.

That was off white's shoe or black touched it last..etc

[Freddy]

Don't do this all the time. In fact, don't do this if you don't have to. Shucks, don't even do it.
At the risk of getting thoroughly lambasted, for which I'm ready, consider this . . .
Oftentimes the players themselves know who knocked the ball OOB. Just a brief pause to allow a slight, furtive glance at the players' reactions can give away what the correct call would be.
Note well: I'm not saying do this. But it seems to hold true the very few times I experimented with it. Or, I mean, I read about it somewhere. Or, I mean, BillyMac told me he did this all the time.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Adam

I was standing in his coaching box

Whose coaching box??

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Whose coaching box??

I knew someone would say something, I only used "his" to indicate which box I was in.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

Hi Bob...

I have experienced being questioned often OOB calls from middle school games to JV level and summer rec too. Especially when its under the basket and goes out on the endline in tight quarters.

That was off white's shoe or black touched it last..etc

If you are consistently getting comments about your OOB calls then I would say it may have something to do with the confidence you exude during these calls. You can't be hesitant with your whistle, it stills need to be immediate even if you still have information to process. When you do finally yell out a color there needs to be authority in your voice.

And finally, make it clear you are not entertaining any comments on the call. Get the ball immediately back into play.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If you are consistently getting comments about your OOB calls then I would say it may have something to do with the confidence you exude during these calls. You can't be hesitant with your whistle, it stills need to be immediate even if you still have information to process. When you do finally yell out a color there needs to be authority in your voice.

And finally, make it clear you are not entertaining any comments on the call. Get the ball immediately back into play.

Yep.

Originally Posted by Adam

Sell it.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Adam

I knew someone would say something, I only used "his" to indicate which box I was in.

I tell new guys, "It's not his box. It's MY box. I let him use it if he behaves."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I tell new guys, "It's not his box. It's MY box. I let him use it if he behaves."

I always refer to it as "the coaching box" for the same reason.

[ballgame99]

I've gotten in the habit of saying "off red, white ball", my last few games I decided I was just going to say "white ball", but I fell back into my old habit. Does it matter as long as you are definitive with the call and signal?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I've gotten in the habit of saying "off red, white ball", my last few games I decided I was just going to say "white ball", but I fell back into my old habit. Does it matter as long as you are definitive with the call and signal?

IMO, Yes.

Too often, people won't hear the first word "off" and it will then sound like you are changing you mind.

Plus, if it's white's ball, then it must have been "off red'. So, it's just redundant. Saying less is saying more.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I've gotten in the habit of saying "off red, white ball", my last few games I decided I was just going to say "white ball", but I fell back into my old habit. Does it matter as long as you are definitive with the call and signal?

I had a habit of this also. The last camp I went to, I was told to just say red ball and point in the direction.

[constable]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I had a habit of this also. The last camp I went to, I was told to just say red ball and point in the direction.

More is less.

Give the colour and the direction. If clarification is needed then offer it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I've gotten in the habit of saying "off red, white ball", my last few games I decided I was just going to say "white ball", but I fell back into my old habit. Does it matter as long as you are definitive with the call and signal?

Yes it makes a difference....what is the purpose of saying "off red", isn't "white ball" telling us the same information?

Say "white ball" first, if further info is needed THEN say "off red 32/"hit red's foot/etc".

[zm1283]

I don't say "ball", just "red" or "white" and point.