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Old Sun Dec 02, 2012, 07:56pm
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Simply But Yet so Hard..sometimes

A call that seems simply but at times can be hard is the OOB call.

Coaches complain about OOB calls almost as often as block/charge.

Any pointers on improving OOB calls?
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Old Sun Dec 02, 2012, 08:48pm
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Old Sun Dec 02, 2012, 08:49pm
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Old Tue Dec 04, 2012, 09:41am
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This. A strong voice and no-doubt mechanic will work wonders. Whatever you do, don't ask the kids,"okay, who touched it last?"

I made the mistake of doing that in a middle school game. I made that mistake ONCE. THAT was a learning experience.
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Old Tue Dec 04, 2012, 09:52am
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Don't ask the kids,"okay, who touched it last?"
The only time that this technique could be used is in a one person game, and if you officiate long enough, you will eventually work a one person game. Most of the time the kids are pretty honest and the game is better without a bunch of extra alternating possession situations.
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Old Tue Dec 04, 2012, 10:22am
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Use Judiciaously and Sparingly . . .

Don't do this all the time. In fact, don't do this if you don't have to. Shucks, don't even do it.
At the risk of getting thoroughly lambasted, for which I'm ready, consider this . . .
Oftentimes the players themselves know who knocked the ball OOB. Just a brief pause to allow a slight, furtive glance at the players' reactions can give away what the correct call would be.
Note well: I'm not saying do this. But it seems to hold true the very few times I experimented with it. Or, I mean, I read about it somewhere. Or, I mean, BillyMac told me he did this all the time.
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Old Tue Dec 04, 2012, 10:35am
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If you are consistently getting comments about your OOB calls then I would say it may have something to do with the confidence you exude during these calls. You can't be hesitant with your whistle, it stills need to be immediate even if you still have information to process. When you do finally yell out a color there needs to be authority in your voice.

And finally, make it clear you are not entertaining any comments on the call. Get the ball immediately back into play.
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Old Sun Dec 02, 2012, 08:53pm
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1. Mechanics: get an angle, be in the right place to see the play. That doesn't guarantee you'll see it, but it improves the odds and is one less ground for complaint.

2. Coverage: if you're off ball and it shoots out past you, get help. Don't ball watch because you might miss an OOB.

3. Call: For NFHS, at least, use the stop clock mechanic. This gives your brain a moment to process what you've seen. Point and announce the color: if they don't match, again, you'll have a moment to process what's right. Slow down your calling and you'll make fewer mistakes.

4. Help: if a partner comes to you with info, take it, change the call, and move on. You should pre-game that nobody corrects an OOB unless they're 100% certain. Plus, now coach can go talk to your partner.

5. Coaches: they don't get a long conversation about OOB calls. "Coach, I had it off white's foot. Let's go." It's a judgment call, and they don't get to argue it. If they persist, I use a simple "You might have seen it differently, but that's enough, coach." (I might converse more about block/charge because somebody gets a foul toward their 5 for that one.)
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5. Coaches: they don't get a long conversation about OOB calls. "Coach, I had it off white's foot. Let's go." It's a judgment call, and they don't get to argue it. If they persist, I use a simple "You might have seen it differently, but that's enough, coach." (I might converse more about block/charge because somebody gets a foul toward their 5 for that one.)
I better be standing right next to a coach to even have much of any conversation with a coach about and OOB call.

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I better be standing right next to a coach to even have much of any conversation with a coach about and OOB call.

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I've only given a T once when a coach argued about an OOB call. In an AAU game. We had the same angle on the play (I was standing in his coaching box), and he wouldn't drop it.
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Whose coaching box??
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I knew someone would say something, I only used "his" to indicate which box I was in.
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A call that seems simply but at times can be hard is the OOB call.

Coaches complain about OOB calls almost as often as block/charge.

Any pointers on improving OOB calls?
Stay wide.
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3. Call: For NFHS, at least, use the stop clock signal. This gives your brain a moment to process what you've seen. Point and announce the color: if they don't match, again, you'll have a moment to process what's right. Slow down your calling and you'll make fewer mistakes.
This applies to NCAA men as well.

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