"Shooting" at own basket

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by representing

If that ever happens to me, I'm running out of the gym and hanging up my whistle for good.

But, to keep this going, I'm going to say this, however I'm only guessing and have no idea what would be right or wrong... wrong basket is good off the deflection, foul is no longer a shooting foul because the ball has entered the opposing basket legally, making that play dead. If time was still on the clock at the point the foul occurred according to one of the officials, put time back on the clock and take the ball OOB closest to the spot of the foul.

I like this explanation, but it now makes me think about fouls during the time between the ball going through the basket and it being picked up by inbounding team. If the ball is dead during this time period, isn't it true that there can not be a foul during this time period unless intentional or flagrant?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

I like this explanation, but it now makes me think about fouls during the time between the ball going through the basket and it being picked up by inbounding team. If the ball is dead during this time period, isn't it true that there can not be a foul during this time period unless intentional or flagrant?

That explanation is incorrect by rule.

Your further thoughts are correct, that would be dead ball contact and should be treated accordingly.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

there can not be a foul during this time period unless intentional or flagrant?

and in two other cases ... (trying to "teach you to fish")

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Adam

That explanation is incorrect by rule.

Your further thoughts are correct, that would be dead ball contact and should be treated accordingly.

I figured out why the explanation is incorrect. 4-19-1 note.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

I figured out why the explanation is incorrect. 4-19-1 note.

I was talking about the explanation of why it wouldn't be a shooting foul.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Adam

I was talking about the explanation of why it wouldn't be a shooting foul.

It is still a shooting foul, right? If not I am not sure what you are getting at.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

It is still a shooting foul, right? If not I am not sure what you are getting at.

Yes, it is.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

I want to say no because the ball becomes dead on a shot after a foul when it is obvious that the try is going to be unsuccessful. The player is shooting towards his own goal and a deflection /foul causing it to go into the wrong basket would certainly mean the try had ended prior to it going into the wrong basket.
But, If your scenario went like this: try , deflection of ball back into basket, foul, horn. I just opened another can of worms. Going to count the points for the made "wrong" basket, then 3 fts to the original player with lanes cleared. Isn't this fun?

I agree with your ruling.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I agree with your ruling.

At least someone does.