Local politics blues

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Never saw your request...until now. IM on the way. And the names I send you will be people who were held back from getting "good schedules" until it became so apparent to everyone that they were too good to be held back. They were not part of your assignor's "Network" or "circle" and were not treated fairly because of that. Finally some in that "network" said things like "Hey, Xxxx is really pretty damn good." Then suddenly they start getting better assignments and tournaments. Shocking.

You said something very interesting to me. First thing what is a "good schedule?" Is that not subjective? I know people that work nothing but varsity games and complain about the games they get or that they do not have enough "big games."

Secondly you said they were held back until it was proven they were too good to be held back. OK, did that not mean they proved they could work? Isn't that how it normally goes? And how did they prove they were pretty damn good? Did they go to camps, meetings, trainings or work in front of the right people? I do not read anything nefarious in your claims of not being in someone's circle. If anything, it seems how the individuals you are referencing got games or better games like everyone else I know.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You said something very interesting to me. First thing what is a "good schedule?" Is that not subjective? I know people that work nothing but varsity games and complain about the games they get or that they do not have enough "big games."

Secondly you said they were held back until it was proven they were too good to be held back. OK, did that not mean they proved they could work? Isn't that how it normally goes? And how did they prove they were pretty damn good? Did they go to camps, meetings, trainings or work in front of the right people? I do not read anything nefarious in your claims of not being in someone's circle. If anything, it seems how the individuals you are referencing got games or better games like everyone else I know.

Peace

Or it could be they didn't play golf with the local big-time officials, or weren't on a certain softball team, or didn't go to school with certain people, or didn't work at a certain huge corporation like other officials who never went to camps or work off-season ball or stay in shape.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Or it could be they didn't play golf with the local big-time officials, or weren't on a certain softball team, or didn't go to school with certain people, or didn't work at a certain huge corporation like other officials who never went to camps or work off-season ball or stay in shape.

Anything is possible, but I know a lot of people that do none of those things and are fine in their careers.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Anything is possible, but I know a lot of people that do none of those things and are fine in their careers.

Peace

Well it was a definite problem around here since my area only had one assignor for HS games for multiple decades. Our system is different than your system.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Well it was a definite problem around here since my area only had one assignor for HS games for multiple decades. Our system is different than your system.

All systems are going to be different because you have different people running them. Never stated that it does not happen, but there are a lot of people that use excuses or act like they were wronged when others have been through the same process.

And often people that say they are wronged think there is some special procedures that they have to go through, rather than admitting they did not do everything they could normally to get to a certain point. Case in point the examples that Camron gave about the individuals that were identified to him.

Peace

[canuckrefguy]

An interesting thread - because where I am, coaches have ZERO official input into game assignments, playoff or otherwise. Officials as a whole also have no official input.

For everything below the college level, local associations provide officials to various games, and the association sends the clients a bill. The client then pays the bill.

Certainly local assignors have an ongoing dialogue with coaches, AD's, etc., but playoff and provincial championship assignments are made by a committee of senior officials and/or local executive officers.

Our system must seem downright dictatorial to you folks

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

An interesting thread - because where I am, coaches have ZERO official input into game assignments, playoff or otherwise. Officials as a whole also have no official input.

For everything below the college level, local associations provide officials to various games, and the association sends the clients a bill. The client then pays the bill.

Certainly local assignors have an ongoing dialogue with coaches, AD's, etc., but playoff and provincial championship assignments are made by a committee of senior officials and/or local executive officers.

Our system must seem downright dictatorial to you folks,eh?

Fixed it for ya! No charge.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

An interesting thread - because where I am, coaches have ZERO official input into game assignments, playoff or otherwise. Officials as a whole also have no official input.

For everything below the college level, local associations provide officials to various games, and the association sends the clients a bill. The client then pays the bill.

Certainly local assignors have an ongoing dialogue with coaches, AD's, etc., but playoff and provincial championship assignments are made by a committee of senior officials and/or local executive officers.

Our system must seem downright dictatorial to you folks

You cannot say coaches have no input and then say the assignors talk to them. They might not be the decision makers, which is the way it should be, bu they still have input.

Peace