T-worthy or not?

[Rufus]

This one was in my backyard so to speak, and having viewed it a couple of times I agree with Bainsey. The first comment I said to my wife after having viewed it was that I would've talked to him but not whacked him for that. Having read the description of the play before seeing the video I thought we'd see something blatant where he dunked then stood there posturing while also staring the other team down. Didn't see that in the video. Don't know everything that led to that call, of course, so judgment is based solely on what you can see in the video.

All that being said, I'd like to hear more about the first double technical that was called. Was the ball at the disposal of the thrower-in when the call was made, or before? What made it a technical rather than common foul?

[Scrapper1]

I can see the "staredown", but don't think it's T-worthy. I see what the official saw that triggered the call. I just don't think it's the appropriate call in that particular situation. JMO.

[truerookie]

Maybe this official issued the T. Due to his stature, experience and reputation.

[JeroenB]

Originally Posted by scrapper1

i can see the "staredown", but don't think it's t-worthy. I see what the official saw that triggered the call. I just don't think it's the appropriate call in that particular situation. Jmo.

+1

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rufus

This one was in my backyard so to speak, and having viewed it a couple of times I agree with Bainsey. The first comment I said to my wife after having viewed it was that I would've talked to him but not whacked him for that. Having read the description of the play before seeing the video I thought we'd see something blatant where he dunked then stood there posturing while also staring the other team down. Didn't see that in the video. Don't know everything that led to that call, of course, so judgment is based solely on what you can see in the video.

All that being said, I'd like to hear more about the first double technical that was called. Was the ball at the disposal of the thrower-in when the call was made, or before? What made it a technical rather than common foul?

I'm gonna assume that the ball was not yet at anyone's disposal on the double-T. And if there was ongoing tension throughout the game then "staring down" may have been enough to warrant a T. There may have been a couple of other incidents where the officials warned players they were close to crossing the line.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm gonna assume that the ball was not yet at anyone's disposal on the double-T. And if there was ongoing tension throughout the game then "staring down" may have been enough to warrant a T. There may have been a couple of other incidents where the officials warned players they were close to crossing the line.

Just watched the video. As stated by others, nothing that would be T-worthy in a vacuum. But we don't know what else has happened. Don't know his name, but I've been to a couple camps with the guy who called the 'T'. He is a college official who I know has access to some quality mentoring and training. So right now, until I hear any further details, I'm gonna assume he had good reason to pull the trigger at this point in the game.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Rufus

This one was in my backyard so to speak, and having viewed it a couple of times I agree with Bainsey. The first comment I said to my wife after having viewed it was that I would've talked to him but not whacked him for that. Having read the description of the play before seeing the video I thought we'd see something blatant where he dunked then stood there posturing while also staring the other team down. Didn't see that in the video. Don't know everything that led to that call, of course, so judgment is based solely on what you can see in the video.

All that being said, I'd like to hear more about the first double technical that was called. Was the ball at the disposal of the thrower-in when the call was made, or before? What made it a technical rather than common foul?

There's another thread on our site about this where I posted part of another news story. Apparently the two teams had been trash-talking during the game so that obviously had something to do with it.

As for the double technicals, I've been looking for video but haven't found any to see whether that was handled correctly. I'm shocked nothing has been posted on YouTube by someone from either school.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

There's another thread on our site about this where I posted part of another news story. Apparently the two teams had been trash-talking during the game so that obviously had something to do with it.

Many Ts are not called in a bubble, they are called with consideration to other aspects of the game and previous events. It is possible that this was the most minor of his actions but he did not take heed to other warnings or being addressed.

Peace

[Da Official]

For a state tournament game this call stunk. Period. Yes everyone has their own opinion...this is mine.

[MD Longhorn]

BNR and Jeff hit this on the head. Many T's (most, maybe) are not the result of a single action, but the accumulated actions of a player. We don't know, in a vacuum, if this kid had already been warned (possibly more than once) about the taunting. We don't know exactly why R called the earlier double-T, but the fact that they DID tells me there's a whole lot more going on than what is described in the article.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

BNR and Jeff hit this on the head. Many T's (most, maybe) are not the result of a single action, but the accumulated actions of a player. We don't know, in a vacuum, if this kid had already been warned (possibly more than once) about the taunting. We don't know exactly why R called the earlier double-T, but the fact that they DID tells me there's a whole lot more going on than what is described in the article.

This maybe true. There could have been other situations leading up to this point.

It can also be assumed that the player was backpeddling to get into position on his team defensive posture and was looking to see where the ball is located. He was backpeddling!

[JugglingReferee]

I do like the mechanics that this official used.

[Rich]

I didn't mean to imply that I thought this guy was horrible or anything. But I'm not even certain he was really staring the guy down. In a situation like this, you'd really like a technical to call itself.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by truerookie

This maybe true. There could have been other situations leading up to this point.

It can also be assumed that the player was backpeddling to get into position on his team defensive posture and was looking to see where the ball is located. He was backpeddling!

He was back-pedaling by the time the whistle was blown but before that he pushed the ball to the ground and then stared at his opponent.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

He was back-pedaling by the time the whistle was blown but before that he pushed the ball to the ground and then stared at his opponent.

BNR,

That very well could have been the case. A delay of game warning could have been an option.