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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 10:15am
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Automatic T worthy?

H.S. level coach or player says "That's horrible/terrible" in regards to a call made by you or your partner that doesn't favor their team.

Do you all T em up right away?

How about the same comments on the wreck level?

What are some other phrases that equal an automatic?


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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 10:26am
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A comment like that's horrible or terrible. I normally pass on from their angle it may be horrible or terrible. If they stated something like. Ref, you are horrible or terrible. I give them the bizness.


Automatic T's my opinion: Slamming chair/cilpboard down. Commenting that my partner is horrible or terrible
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 10:32am
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Automatic T's my opinion: Slamming chair/clipboard down. Commenting that my partner is horrible or terrible
Agreed....and add to this list vulgar or obscene language and gestures. Note that your personal discretion will have to be applied for what you consider to be "vulgar or obscene language."
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 10:37am
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is it just me but I think slamming a chair down -- ala mr. Knight -- would get an ejection from me -- depends on severity but -- at the HS level IMO its off to the showers.
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 10:38am
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H.S. level coach or player says "That's horrible/terrible" in regards to a call made by you or your partner that doesn't favor their team.

Do you all T em up right away?
No.

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How about the same comments on the wreck level?
I do not do "WREAK" ball so I cannot answer that question.

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What are some other phrases that equal an automatic?
I really hate to use the term automatic. A lot of decisions like this change based on game situation, level, loudness and what happen during the other part of the game. I may address the issue, but not automatically give a T.

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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 10:38am
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Race - cheating - personal - will get an immediate response.
sometimes the language depends on who heard it?
If you can deal with it quietly it can fit the game managment mode better, but the MF, the F, words can not be dealt with any other way.

I have a new way of dealing with some of it this year.
" ... That one was free the next one is going to cost you"

they know you heard it and they know there will be consequenses -
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 11:05am
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I really hate to use the term automatic. A lot of decisions like this change based on game situation, level, loudness and what happen during the other part of the game. I may address the issue, but not automatically give a T.

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This is a great post about giving a T. A lot of variables can be going on at the moment so calling something and "automatic T" is a little shortsighted. A coach saying a call was horrible or terrible may be a T, it may also be a time when you can let the coach know he or she needs to coach the players, not us. There are even times when comments like these need to be ignored.
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 11:17am
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Rec league, I don't do, but if I did...yes I would whack'em.
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 11:28am
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Appreciate all the feedback. This is a great forum! I'm glad I stumbled across you guys.
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 12:15pm
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Appreciate all the feedback. This is a great forum! I'm glad I stumbled across you guys.
Yup, it's a great place to bounce ideas off people and hear other opinions. Some you'll adopt, some you'll consider complete bs (probably stuff I post ).
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 12:18pm
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Race - cheating - personal - will get an immediate response.
sometimes the language depends on who heard it?
If you can deal with it quietly it can fit the game managment mode better, but the MF, the F, words can not be dealt with any other way.

I have a new way of dealing with some of it this year.
" ... That one was free the next one is going to cost you"

they know you heard it and they know there will be consequenses -
So if I, a white guy, call someone else a cracker that's an automatic T? What if only you and the player hear the F or MF words? I'm not trying to be a smartass, I just think "automatic T's" are too much of a generalization.
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 12:51pm
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some you'll consider complete bs (probably stuff I post).
You are wise beyond your years.

Bad JR. Bad, bad JR.

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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 12:55pm
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So if I, a white guy, call someone else a cracker that's an automatic T? What if only you and the player hear the F or MF words? I'm not trying to be a smartass, I just think "automatic T's" are too much of a generalization.
I've successfully dealt with the F word without a T before. It was purely a frustration thing, but I heard it a couple times. I happened to be by her bench shortly after that and asked the coach to deal with it. He thanked me, and I didn't have a problem the rest of the game.
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 01:02pm
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This is a great post about giving a T. A lot of variables can be going on at the moment so calling something and "automatic T" is a little shortsighted. A coach saying a call was horrible or terrible may be a T, it may also be a time when you can let the coach know he or she needs to coach the players, not us. There are even times when comments like these need to be ignored.
I agree that many Ts require your judgement and are defintiely not automatic Ts, like "that's horrible." But there are some definite clear cut automatics.
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 01:17pm
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So if I, a white guy, call someone else a cracker that's an automatic T? What if only you and the player hear the F or MF words? I'm not trying to be a smartass, I just think "automatic T's" are too much of a generalization.
I should probably specify -
calling me an MF'er or an FU is going to get you lit up. that one really doesn't matter who else heard it.

Now that I think about it you are right on the other items they are not automatic.
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