Tonight's game

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Just fleshing this out a bit:
1. A1, on the run, catches with the right foot on the floor.
2. A1 lifts that foot in his run.
3. A1 starts his dribble.
4. A1 puts his left foot down as part of his run.

On step four, his right foot became the pivot, retroactively.
He had lifted that pivot before the dribble started.
Travel.

Other play where we retroactively learn of a travel:
A1 catches the ball, pivots, and then releases a pass towards A2, who has run away from the area.
A1 runs to retrieve the ball.

This is a travel because A1 lifted his pivot before starting his dribble. (The throw in should be at the spot nearest where his pivot foot was lifted.)

I still don't agree with you in the first case and even if I did, I still wouldn't call it because it would be bang bang.

As for the second one, can't you take as many steps during a dribble as you want. Ball is out of his hands, he hasn't used his dribble yet, I think this should be legit as well, as long as he passed the ball before lifting the pivot foot and hasn't used his dribble already.