Tonight's game

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I had a single game tonight. It was the boys varsity championship.

#1: Team B gets possession on a steal on the left wing and B2 from the right wing breaks right away. A2 stays with him, but is 1 step behind him. B1, who stole the ball from A1, passes to B2, who receives the pass in his FC, between the 3-point line and the centre circle. B2 is going to dunk. However, his pivot foot comes up before the ball goes down. I'm the new L in transition and without missing a heartbeat, call the travel.

Was B2 on a dead run or at a standstill when he got the ball? In the air or on one foot? Can you elaborate a bit more?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Was B2 on a dead run or at a standstill when he got the ball? In the air or on one foot? Can you elaborate a bit more?

I don't know what a dead run is, but B2 was running and caught the ball in stride from B1.

If they were playing football, it would have been a great pass from QB to receiver. Because B2 caught the ball outside the 3-point line, he couldn't dunk without a dribble, and therefore his foot movement was more restrictive.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I don't know what a dead run is, but B2 was running and caught the ball in stride from B1.

If they were playing football, it would have been a great pass from QB to receiver. Because B2 caught the ball outside the 3-point line, he couldn't dunk without a dribble, and therefore his foot movement was more restrictive.

The reason I ask is this: 4-44-2 states A player who catches the ball while moving or dribbling may stop and establish a pivot foot as follows:
b. If one foot is on the floor:
1. It is the pivot foot when the other foot touches in a step.(Not your scenario.)
2. The player may jump off that foot and simultaneously land on both. Neither foot can be a pivot in this case.

So the point is if he is running and he catches the ball on his right foot then has neither on the ground and starts his dribble this should be legal as he has not established a pivot foot yet. He would be able to land on both feet (but not have a pivot) or start a dribble and continue moving. So was it really a travel?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

The reason I ask is this: 4-44-2 states A player who catches the ball while moving or dribbling may stop and establish a pivot foot as follows:
b. If one foot is on the floor:
1. It is the pivot foot when the other foot touches in a step.(Not your scenario.)
2. The player may jump off that foot and simultaneously land on both. Neither foot can be a pivot in this case.

So the point is if he is running and he catches the ball on his right foot then has neither on the ground and starts his dribble this should be legal as he has not established a pivot foot yet. He would be able to land on both feet (but not have a pivot) or start a dribble and continue moving.

Are you saying a player who catches the ball, while running, with his right foot on the floor, can lift his right foot before starting his dribble?

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Are you saying a player who catches the ball, while running, with his right foot on the floor, can lift his right foot before starting his dribble?

Yep. he hasn't technically established it as a pivot yet.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Yep. he hasn't technically established it as a pivot yet.

I will say this, if the player's second foot isn't down yet when he starts his dribble, then I probably can't tell that the first foot has been lifted. But that's not relevant to the rule you're quoting.

What about a player who catches the ball with both feet on the floor, then jumps off of both feet before starting his dribble?

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I will say this, if the player's second foot isn't down yet when he starts his dribble, then I probably can't tell that the first foot has been lifted. But that's not relevant to the rule you're quoting.

What about a player who catches the ball with both feet on the floor, then jumps off of both feet before starting his dribble?

If he starts a dribble that is a travel. So what if the player in the OP, catches the ball on one foot starts a dribble then lands on both feet simultaneously? Then what do you have?