My New #1 Myth

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Tebo2526

On this subject, what if a player claps his hands together after missing a shot and says "damn", obviously frustrated with himself. No hears it but the referee he's running beside back down the court? Isn't that a little much or would you T him up as well. Just curious, cause it happened.

Judgment.

In some areas, at some ages, to some referees, this would be profanity.

In other areas, at other ages, to other referees, a loud MF (to the ball, basket, self) would not be profanity.

In most areas, to most referees, the line is somewhere in the middle (and might depend on what else has happened that night).

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Tebo2526

On this subject, what if a player claps his hands together after missing a shot and says "damn", obviously frustrated with himself. No hears it but the referee he's running beside back down the court? Isn't that a little much or would you T him up as well. Just curious, cause it happened.

As described, this is completely ignored by me.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Judgment.

In some areas, at some ages, to some referees, this would be profanity.

In other areas, at other ages, to other referees, a loud MF (to the ball, basket, self) would not be profanity.

In most areas, to most referees, the line is somewhere in the middle (and might depend on what else has happened that night).

Agreed as well. If it's a varsity game, 99.9% of the time I don't even bat an eye. Only if the player has been a turd and it needs to be addressed. That would be rare though.

If it's a middle school game, which I don't even do anymore, I might say something to the player and remind him to watch his language.

[Tebo2526]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Judgment.

In some areas, at some ages, to some referees, this would be profanity.

In other areas, at other ages, to other referees, a loud MF (to the ball, basket, self) would not be profanity.

In most areas, to most referees, the line is somewhere in the middle (and might depend on what else has happened that night).

HS Boy's Varsity, blow-out game, kid hit 4 in a row and missed the 5th. Had no bearing on the game and wasn't a big issue. I just thought it was a little over the top. Explanation given to the coach was exactly what I said. No big deal, but I've heard worse and nobody heard this......

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Tebo2526

HS Boy's Varsity, blow-out game, kid hit 4 in a row and missed the 5th. Had no bearing on the game and wasn't a big issue. I just thought it was a little over the top. Explanation given to the coach was exactly what I said. No big deal, but I've heard worse and nobody heard this......

If no one else heard it, and "damn" was all he said, I wouldn't consider it anywhere close to over the top, and I wouldn't feel like the coach needed an explanation. Just my two cents...

[Tebo2526]

Originally Posted by zm1283

If no one else heard it, and "damn" was all he said, I wouldn't consider it anywhere close to over the top, and I wouldn't feel like the coach needed an explanation. Just my two cents...

I meant I thought the call was over the top.

I think they at least need to fill people in on why the call was made. If not, you got a 17 year old kid explaining how he "didn't say anything!!!!". Just sayin

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Tebo2526

I meant I thought the call was over the top.

I think they at least need to fill people in on why the call was made. If not, you got a 17 year old kid explaining how he "didn't say anything!!!!". Just sayin

Oh, they called this. In that case, explain to the player and coach that they're always better off not giving us a decision to make.

[Tebo2526]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Oh, they called this. In that case, explain to the player and coach that they're always better off not giving us a decision to make.

That is true

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by tref

As you gain experience you will come to understand that as long as they're keeping score in a competitive setting & once the clock reads triple zeros, we will have a winner & a loser. Half of the people involved (coaches/players/fans) will not like your call half of the time.

You will either accept this or continue to let it bother you. Remember, our appearance, signals & court presence are what commands respect long before we blow our whistle. Our attitude toward pushback should be, "what I do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say."

We cannot control the respect of fans, but improving our call accuracy will lead to credibility & if we're lucky, everything else falls into place.

Stealing some of this for my pre-game.

[tref]

Its all recycled.

[YooperRef]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Why did you think that?

I thought rebounding your own airball was legal (4.44 Sit. B). I read the sentence by fiasco, "A myth is something people think is true but really is not, like being able to catch your own airball.", as people think it's true that you are able to catch your own airball but it's not. I just interpreted the sentence differently. I had a long discussion with a parent of one of the VB players last week about this and had to show him the case play before he would believe me.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by YooperRef

I thought rebounding your own airball was legal (4.44 Sit. B). I read the sentence by fiasco, "A myth is something people think is true but really is not, like being able to catch your own airball.", as people think it's true that you are able to catch your own airball but it's not. I just interpreted the sentence differently. I had a long discussion with a parent of one of the VB players last week about this and had to show him the case play before he would believe me.

You're right. I mis-read your post. Catching your own airball is legal and it's a myth that you can't. But that's one rule I think fans are starting to learn. I'm starting to see instances where it happens and no moans come from the crowd.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You're right. I mis-read your post. Catching your own airball is legal and it's a myth that you can't. But that's one rule I think fans are starting to learn. I'm starting to see instances where it happens and no moans come from the crowd.

Next step: high dribble.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Next step: high dribble.

That's what we need: A good ol' myth checklist.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bainsey

That's what we need: A good ol' myth checklist.

I hope you forgot a smiley. Otherwise the next 2 pages will be dominated by a certain official from Connecticutt.