Flagrant 1 Technical Foul

[BktBallRef]

Yep, flagrant 1 technical.

Personal foul on #23, ball is dead. Then, left forearm to the chin of #23 by #2 . Easy call when you get to look at a replay.

[JRutledge]

That looks very inadvertent to me. They were fighting for the ball and the ball came loose. I think they should have had nothing. And John Adams said to not call this a flagrant foul if it is incidental or apart of basketball.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That looks very inadvertent to me. They were fighting for the ball and the ball came loose. I think they should have had nothing. And John Adams said to not call this a flagrant foul if it is incidental or apart of basketball.

Peace

Agree....nothing after the original foul.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That looks very inadvertent to me. They were fighting for the ball and the ball came loose. I think they should have had nothing. And John Adams said to not call this a flagrant foul if it is incidental or apart of basketball.

Peace

I agree with this.

And to the poster who asked about time limit...IDK about any limit, but they took a LOOOONNNNGGGG look at this play.

[APG]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I agree with this.

And to the poster who asked about time limit...IDK about any limit, but they took a LOOOONNNNGGGG look at this play.

I believe they looked at the replay...discussed...then looked at the reply again.

I don't believe NCAA has a time limit for replays...I believe that's true for football as well.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Yep, flagrant 1 technical.

Personal foul on #23, ball is dead. Then, left forearm to the chin of #23 by #2 . Easy call when you get to look at a replay.

According to the NCAA rule book, there is no such thing as a flagrant 1 technical. There is a flagrant 1 personal foul and a Class A technical foul. Don't know why they went that way with the terminology.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

According to the NCAA rule book, there is no such thing as a flagrant 1 technical. There is a flagrant 1 personal foul and a Class A technical foul. Don't know why they went that way with the terminology.

Actually it is a "Contact dead ball foul" (4-29-3g) which is specific to this kind of play if the ball was ruled dead. That is of course if we want to play the semantics games.

Peace

[stiffler3492]

I didn't know they could call a technical after video review.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I didn't know they could call a technical after video review.

I'm not up on all the monitor rules, especialy for NCAAM, but I think you can go to the monitor to see if it was a Flagrant 2 T. If it's not, but you then observe a contact dead-ball T, you can assess that.

[zm1283]

I've got nothing during the dead ball.

[dahoopref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually it is a "Contact dead ball foul" (4-29-3g) which is specific to this kind of play if the ball was ruled dead. That is of course if we want to play the semantics games.

Peace

The "semantics" are important as to which foul to access.

A Contact Dead Ball Technical counts toward an ejection if the player picks up another Class A Tech or 2 Class B Techs.

A Flagrant 1 PF counts only toward the players allotted 5 PFs.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

The "semantics" are important as to which foul to access.

A Contact Dead Ball Technical counts toward an ejection if the player picks up another Class A Tech or 2 Class B Techs.

A Flagrant 1 PF counts only toward the players allotted 5 PFs.

Yes but the action we are discussing is a Flagrant 1 equivalent the only difference it is a dead ball foul. Because it is not supposed to get called a Flagrant 1 Technical, the language as to if a foul is called is very similar. And in the rule they say, "but does not rise to the level of a Flagrant 2." Any dead ball foul in NF rules is still a Technical, no matter what you want to call it.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

The "semantics" are important as to which foul to access.

A Contact Dead Ball Technical counts toward an ejection if the player picks up another Class A Tech or 2 Class B Techs.

A Flagrant 1 PF counts only toward the players allotted 5 PFs.

What if the fouls are inaccessible?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

According to the NCAA rule book, there is no such thing as a flagrant 1 technical. There is a flagrant 1 personal foul and a Class A technical foul. Don't know why they went that way with the terminology.

I really don't givea$hit. I just went with the terminology APG posted.