By Request Of Eyezen

[APG]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I wouldn't expect that travel to ever get called real-time.

Either would I

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I wouldn't expect that travel to ever get called real-time.

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Either would I

Maybe, maybe not. That portion of video is only shown in real-time and I noticed it. The slow-motion replays start after the travel. But it makes the incorrect call on the block even worse when reviewing the tape that A1 also got away with a travel.

[Welpe]

Good pickup on the travel. Traveling on these types of plays is still something I'm struggling to judge correctly.

[eyezen]

APG - thanks for posting

[Wellmer]

I guess I am in the minority here. From the first glance at the video, I thought the defender got LGP but then he slid over as the dribbler tried his best to avoid contact. I don't think the defender got his left foot back down on the floor, but this was a bang bang play. I do notice watching some college games on TV, officials seem to reward the defense even if they slide over into the offensive player to force the contact. Has anyone else noticed that?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Wellmer

I guess I am in the minority here. From the first glance at the video, I thought the defender got LGP but then he slid over as the dribbler tried his best to avoid contact. I don't think the defender got his left foot back down on the floor, but this was a bang bang play. I do notice watching some college games on TV, officials seem to reward the defense even if they slide over into the offensive player to force the contact. Has anyone else noticed that?

Are you confusing the requirements for establishing LGP with the rules for maintaining LGP?

[Wellmer]

Youv'e got a point there!

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Are you confusing the requirements for establishing LGP with the rules for maintaining LGP?

Or the rules for maintaining LGP for a dribbler as opposed to an airborne shooter?

[srp6977]

I say charge.

On a side note #30 for Indiana is Matt Roth from Washington, IL. I officiated his games from 5th grade through his Senior year. State record holder for most 3's made in a career. Great player and a great kid.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by Wellmer

I guess I am in the minority here. From the first glance at the video, I thought the defender got LGP but then he slid over as the dribbler tried his best to avoid contact. I don't think the defender got his left foot back down on the floor, but this was a bang bang play. I do notice watching some college games on TV, officials seem to reward the defense even if they slide over into the offensive player to force the contact. Has anyone else noticed that?

I'm with Wellmer, its a tough angle, but the defender looks to slide up underneth A1 while he is in his shooting motion. A1 takes a side step to avoid the contact and B1 then takes his side step to create the contact. I don't think you would have gotten much flak if this one was called either way, but I had a block also.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I'm with Wellmer, its a tough angle, but the defender looks to slide up underneth A1 while he is in his shooting motion. A1 takes a side step to avoid the contact and B1 then takes his side step to create the contact. I don't think you would have gotten much flak if this one was called either way, but I had a block also.

Your post shows a misunderstanding of the rules involved. Unless the shooter is airborne -- he isn't -- the defender can move in this way legally.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I'm with Wellmer, its a tough angle, but the defender looks to slide up underneth A1 while he is in his shooting motion. A1 takes a side step to avoid the contact and B1 then takes his side step to create the contact. I don't think you would have gotten much flak if this one was called either way, but I had a block also.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Your post shows a misunderstanding of the rules involved. Unless the shooter is airborne -- he isn't -- the defender can move in this way legally.

I'm with Rich. ballgame99, can I suggest that you review this thread by Freddy?

Act of Shooting Doc. - Peer Review Requested

He made a very nice document that shows the relationship between all the variables we need to observe in a play like this Here is the document: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...hl=en_US&pli=1

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I'm with Rich. ballgame99, can I suggest that you review this thread by Freddy?

Act of Shooting Doc. - Peer Review Requested

He made a very nice document that shows the relationship between all the variables we need to observe in a play like this Here is the document: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...hl=en_US&pli=1

I say look at the video again. B1 establishes LGP then when A1 moves left B1 moves in the same direction. And B1 even gets both feet down again before A1 goes airborne.