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APG Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:52pm

By Request Of Eyezen
 
Eyezen asked me to get a clip of this play for discussion:

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JugglingReferee Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:55pm

To establish legal guarding position, the defender should have been facing the ball carrier *and* have two feet down.

stiffler3492 Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:57pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 814216)
To establish legal guarding position, the defender should have been facing the ball carrier *and* have two feet down.

And did he not?

Welpe Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:01pm

I have LGP and then a sidestep the maintain. Charge.

JugglingReferee Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:03pm

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 814219)
And did he not?

My point exactly. It was so obvious, I can't imagine why this is a block.

rockyroad Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:10pm

The new L got beat down the court and did not have a good look at the defender's position. Looks to me like it should have been a PC call. Mistakes happen.

SCalScoreKeeper Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:22pm

How was this ruled a block?
LGP is established and maintained with the sidestep and his feet are not within the RA.Looks like a PC foul to me too but rockyroad is right-the new lead does not do a good job of sprinting down the court and keeping up with the play.He trails it all the way and only gets into position after the hit forcing him to guess.

deecee Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:28pm

One eye closed and full speed, offensive foul. Pretty ho-hum and no reaction after. Sometimes I don't get it. No reaction from players, coaches after such obvious ones and all hell breaks loose after very close marginal calls.

Rich Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:29pm

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 814236)
How was this ruled a block?
LGP is established and maintained with the sidestep and his feet are not within the RA.Looks like a PC foul to me too but rockyroad is right-the new lead does not do a good job of sprinting down the court and keeping up with the play.He trails it all the way and only gets into position after the hit forcing him to guess.

You'd have to be Usain Bolt to be able to get ahead of this play.

deecee Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:32pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 814241)
You'd have to be Usain Bolt to be able to get ahead of this play.

I agree. I would have held my position at the FT line extended and observed from the C position here.

JugglingReferee Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:38pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 814245)
I agree. I would have held my position at the FT line extended and observed from the C position here.

I'm sorry, but I think that idea places you in a worse position.

The only way for this to be a block is if B1 moves forward. If not on the end line, forward movement is best seen when the line between yourself and separation is parallel to the end line.

Besides, A1 traveled twice on the play. Once when receiving the pass, and once just before contact. :)

SCalScoreKeeper Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:41pm

How much would stopping at the FT line extended change the angle you get on this play?

BLydic Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:43pm

Looks like Steratore. Maybe he was a little sleepy from Saturday nights playoff game. :)

JugglingReferee Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:49pm

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Originally Posted by BLydic (Post 814250)
Looks like Steratore. Maybe he was a little sleepy from Saturday nights playoff game. :)

Good eye!

Here's a link to the game: Indiana Hoosiers vs Ohio State Buckeyes - January 15, 2012 - College Basketball - StatSheet.com.

deecee Tue Jan 17, 2012 01:50pm

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 814249)
How much would stopping at the FT line extended change the angle you get on this play?

you would see the whole play and more importantly see through both players rather than straight lined.


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