The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:03pm
Fav theme: Roundball Rock
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Near Dog River (sorta)
Posts: 8,558
Quote:
Originally Posted by stiffler3492 View Post
And did he not?
My point exactly. It was so obvious, I can't imagine why this is a block.
__________________
Pope Francis
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:10pm
Esteemed Participant
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 4,775
The new L got beat down the court and did not have a good look at the defender's position. Looks to me like it should have been a PC call. Mistakes happen.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:22pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Menifee,CA
Posts: 860
How was this ruled a block?
LGP is established and maintained with the sidestep and his feet are not within the RA.Looks like a PC foul to me too but rockyroad is right-the new lead does not do a good job of sprinting down the court and keeping up with the play.He trails it all the way and only gets into position after the hit forcing him to guess.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:28pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
One eye closed and full speed, offensive foul. Pretty ho-hum and no reaction after. Sometimes I don't get it. No reaction from players, coaches after such obvious ones and all hell breaks loose after very close marginal calls.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:29pm
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,794
Quote:
Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper View Post
How was this ruled a block?
LGP is established and maintained with the sidestep and his feet are not within the RA.Looks like a PC foul to me too but rockyroad is right-the new lead does not do a good job of sprinting down the court and keeping up with the play.He trails it all the way and only gets into position after the hit forcing him to guess.
You'd have to be Usain Bolt to be able to get ahead of this play.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:32pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichMSN View Post
You'd have to be Usain Bolt to be able to get ahead of this play.
I agree. I would have held my position at the FT line extended and observed from the C position here.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:38pm
Fav theme: Roundball Rock
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Near Dog River (sorta)
Posts: 8,558
Quote:
Originally Posted by deecee View Post
I agree. I would have held my position at the FT line extended and observed from the C position here.
I'm sorry, but I think that idea places you in a worse position.

The only way for this to be a block is if B1 moves forward. If not on the end line, forward movement is best seen when the line between yourself and separation is parallel to the end line.

Besides, A1 traveled twice on the play. Once when receiving the pass, and once just before contact.
__________________
Pope Francis
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:07pm
Archaic Power Monger
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by JugglingReferee View Post
I'm sorry, but I think that idea places you in a worse position.
That's how I've been taught to officiate such a play as well. The important part of this is that by stopping, you give yourself a steady view of the play.
__________________
Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:41pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Menifee,CA
Posts: 860
How much would stopping at the FT line extended change the angle you get on this play?
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:50pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper View Post
How much would stopping at the FT line extended change the angle you get on this play?
you would see the whole play and more importantly see through both players rather than straight lined.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:43pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Posts: 307
Looks like Steratore. Maybe he was a little sleepy from Saturday nights playoff game.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:49pm
Fav theme: Roundball Rock
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Near Dog River (sorta)
Posts: 8,558
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLydic View Post
Looks like Steratore. Maybe he was a little sleepy from Saturday nights playoff game.
Good eye!

Here's a link to the game: Indiana Hoosiers vs Ohio State Buckeyes - January 15, 2012 - College Basketball - StatSheet.com.
__________________
Pope Francis
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:10pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 520
Fpg?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JugglingReferee View Post
I'm assuming fpg is fouls per game of course, but is this stat the total fouls per game that, even though given as an individual stat, is actually the total fouls per CREW, in games he was on?
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:39pm
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by JugglingReferee View Post
My point exactly. It was so obvious, I can't imagine why this is a block.
If you look at the first part of the clip, the portion that is in real time, you'll see the lead motion to the head coach that he had the defender sliding.

Now I personally have a charge as well on the play. I actually think the lead had a pretty good look at the play as at the time of contact he has no bodies between him and he has a decent look between the ball handler and defender.
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 03:04pm
Esteemed Participant
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 4,775
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer View Post
I actually think the lead had a pretty good look at the play as at the time of contact he has no bodies between him and he has a decent look between the ball handler and defender.
Then why would he call it a block?

I think that he never looked at the defender - he got beat, was running, and turned his head and watched the ball handler the entire way. He never looked to see where the defender was...jmo.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Anybody else get this request JerryLundagard Basketball 24 Mon Sep 28, 2009 06:15pm
A new request rainmaker Basketball 4 Thu Mar 02, 2006 01:07pm
I have a request The Ref of OZ!!! Football 9 Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:49pm
Appropriate help request? insatty Baseball 9 Wed May 28, 2003 01:27pm
Help request Ladybirdsho Swimming/Diving 0 Tue Nov 26, 2002 08:57am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:14am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1