Discussed in an association meeting last night...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

L is too close to the play, T has the great open look. And some still get mad because you called a travel "in front" of them. Oh boy! Its 2012 people & the game has changed.

I guess I didn't realize this was new; it's certainly being taught to us lowly high school officials; has been for years. And in this situation, I'm talking about you as L peaking across the paint to a player on the 3 pt line to see if he's traveling (the real equivalent to L catching a 3 pt shot on the opposite elbow).

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

it's certainly being taught to us lowly high school officials)

Come on Snaqs, the largest part of my schedule is HS games. Lets not go there.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And in this situation, I'm talking about you as L peaking across the paint to a player on the 3 pt line to see if he's traveling (the real equivalent to L catching a 3 pt shot on the opposite elbow).

I've already provided the example of calling a long distance travel. Its from T to L not L to T/C outside the 3 point line.
FTR, if I'm peeking across the paint I should be moving my feet over there.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

Come on Snaqs, the largest part of my schedule is HS games. Lets not go there.

I was referring to your denigration of high school camps.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I was referring to your denigration of high school camps.

Originally Posted by Welpe

For what it's worth, one of the most highly regarded camps in this area is high school oriented I don't know if that necessarily speaks to the quality of the ball here but you are a nobody in the chapter until you've gone to one of these camps.

Originally Posted by tref

Yeah, we have those too
And once is suffice... no video, no can do! If they choose not to use me, trust, someone else will.

Thats what I was referring to.
Unless its a tryout situation, I dont attend any college camps without video.
On a scale from 1-10 the teaching provided by clinicians coming onto the court at t/o & halftime saying this & that is a 4, maybe. Going in to review the film after the game, now thats where the real learning takes place. I mean we are supposed to be going to camp to learn & improve, right. So I invest my hard earned money where I get the bang for my buck.

[Raymond]

If I have a "weak/shouldn't be there/only for the $$$/warm body/etc" partner I'm only extending to get assault/batteries and only conversing if I think a rule is being misapplied or an "on the floor" should be changed to a shooting foul. Otherwise both coaches are going to have to live with the missed travels, missed handchecks, phantom "over the back" and "reaching" fouls, and confusing mechanics. Then they can call the assignor and submit the appropriate report.

If the assignor is willing to put that official in that game then the assignor can answer all the complaints. Or maybe the assignor is thinking the game is getting the quality of official it deserves.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If I have a "weak/shouldn't be there/only for the $$$/warm body/etc" partner I'm only extending to get assault/batteries and only conversing if I think a rule is being misapplied or an "on the floor" should be changed to a shooting foul. Otherwise both coaches are going to have to live with the missed travels, missed handchecks, phantom "over the back" and "reaching" fouls, and confusing mechanics. Then they can call the assignor and submit the appropriate report.

If the assignor is willing to put that official in that game then the assignor can answer all the complaints. Or maybe the assignor is thinking the game is getting the quality of official it deserves.

I get that. A ball-watcher is going to lead to an assault-and-battery though, especially in higher level games. I'm not going to call the whole floor, but I know I'm going to have to extend my look in those situations.

Travels? Garden variety fouls? I'm with you. If I try to work the whole game, I'll be just as bad as my partner. Well, maybe not.