Swing and a miss

[Welpe]

Hm...well thank you for the responses. This happened during one of my 7th grade girls games on Monday. I assessed a technical but not a flagrant. The slap seemed to be more of a "get off me" / frustrated reaction than anything else and a flagrant did not seem to fit the crime. I know that fighting does not require contact but it didn't seem right to call this act fighting. Guess I need to reconsider my thought process here.

Also no way the foul by B1 should have been upgraded, it wasn't even close to intentional nor was it excessive contact.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Hm...well thank you for the responses. This happened during one of my 7th grade girls games on Monday. I assessed a technical but not a flagrant. The slap seemed to me more of a "get off me" / frustrated reaction than anything else and a flagrant did not seem to fit the crime to me. I know that fighting does not require contact but it didn't seem right to call this act fighting. Maybe I will reconsider.

Also no way the foul by B1 should have been upgraded, it wasn't even close to intentional nor was it excessive contact.

Good conference. Report, foul, flagrant foul. Administer in that order.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Hm...well thank you for the responses. This happened during one of my 7th grade girls games on Monday. I assessed a technical but not a flagrant. The slap seemed to be more of a "get off me" / frustrated reaction than anything else and a flagrant did not seem to fit the crime. I know that fighting does not require contact but it didn't seem right to call this act fighting. Guess I need to reconsider my thought process here.

Also no way the foul by B1 should have been upgraded, it wasn't even close to intentional nor was it excessive contact.

I like that for 7th grade girls. A T seems about right: serious penalty for the infraction, but DQ probably not warranted. She'll learn from that and fix it; or not, and get tossed when she does it in a JV game. Kudos.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Hm...well thank you for the responses. This happened during one of my 7th grade girls games on Monday. I assessed a technical but not a flagrant. The slap seemed to be more of a "get off me" / frustrated reaction than anything else and a flagrant did not seem to fit the crime. I know that fighting does not require contact but it didn't seem right to call this act fighting. Guess I need to reconsider my thought process here.

Also no way the foul by B1 should have been upgraded, it wasn't even close to intentional nor was it excessive contact.

I honestly think you handled it correctly, assuming the movie in my brain matches what happened. I'm thinking more of a reactive flail than a premeditated attempt to strike the opponent.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I honestly think you handled it correctly, assuming the movie in my brain matches what happened. I'm thinking more of a reactive flail than a premeditated attempt to strike the opponent.

good terminology

+1

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by just another ref

good terminology

+1

"Reactive Flail"

Also a good band name.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

"Reactive Flail"

Also a good band name.

Has to be punk. Or Johnny Depp's high school band.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Has to be punk. Or Johnny Depp's high school band.

"Freddy and the Phlegmtones", the band that didn't quite make it big.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Hm...well thank you for the responses. This happened during one of my 7th grade girls games on Monday. I assessed a technical but not a flagrant. The slap seemed to be more of a "get off me" / frustrated reaction than anything else and a flagrant did not seem to fit the crime. I know that fighting does not require contact but it didn't seem right to call this act fighting. Guess I need to reconsider my thought process here.

Also no way the foul by B1 should have been upgraded, it wasn't even close to intentional nor was it excessive contact.

The dividing line for me is how the slap is delivered and where it's aimed. If it's a pushing motion aimed below the shoulders, I'm thinking technical (because this usually feels like a defensive action to me). If it's swung or aimed above the shoulders, I'm thinking flagrant (because this feels offensive to me).

A "get off me" is usually going to be a straight technical if severe enough to be anything.