Held Ball on the Throw-in

[APG]

Originally Posted by Amesman

Thanks Bob, Hawkeye and APG -- was just buried in my own typing in previous comment/question and didin't see your answers. Seems odd that this could go Groundhog's Day if B did it, say, several times in a row.

I would say Team A is stupid for repeatedly holding the ball over the plane and allowing Team B to tie them up. Keep the ball on their side of the plane and at worse, they're getting a delay of game warning on B if they cross the plane and miss the ball/thrower.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Amesman

Thanks Bob, Hawkeye and APG -- was just buried in my own typing in previous comment/question and didin't see your answers. Seems odd that this could go Groundhog's Day if B did it, say, several times in a row.

Just the way it is, though. Case play 6.4.5.B.

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Just the way it is, though. Case play 6.4.5.B.

And the first line of that starts, "During an alternating possession throw-in ..." How is it treated differently if this happens during a non-AP determined throw-in? (Sorry, but that was nagging this fuzzbrain since JR brought it up previously.)

Just following through because I get the anxious feeling that, just like playing the same lotto numbers for a while and then quitting -- BAM! -- you know the sitch is going to come up at the next opportunity. After this I merely lurk and learn for a while. Promise.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Amesman

And the first line of that starts, "During an alternating possession throw-in ..." How is it treated differently if this happens during a non-AP determined throw-in? (Sorry, but that was nagging this fuzzbrain since JR brought it up previously.)

Like this:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

2011-2012 NFHS Case Book

*7.6.4 SITUATION F: Thrower A1 inadvertently holds the ball through the endline plane during a throw-in. B1 is able to get his/her hands on the ball and A1 cannot pull it back.

RULING: A held ball is called, resulting in an alternating-possession throw-in. If the original throw-in is an alternating-possession throw-in, Team A still has the arrow following the held ball.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Amesman

While all contact by a defending reaching across to an inbounder is now deemed an intentional foul, what's the call if, as in the OP above, inbounder A reaches across the imaginary line and then is hacked on the arm? Just a personal foul on B?

The defender may not break the imaginary plane during a throwin until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass. If the defender breaks the imaginary plane during a throwin before the ball has been released on a throw-in pass, the defender’s team will receive a team delay warning, or if the team has already been warned for one of the four delay situations, this action would result in a team technical foul. If the defender contacts the ball after breaking the imaginary plane, it is a player technical foul and a team delay warning will be recorded. If the defender breaks the imaginary plane, and fouls the inbounding player, it is an intentional personal foul, and a team delay warning will be recorded. It is an intentional personal foul if the defender fouls the inbounding player, even without breaking the imaginary plane, however, in this specific case, there is no delay of game warning because the defender did not break the boundary plane.

[just another ref]

How many have actually seen this happen? I have not.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Freddy

7.6.4f

(Wow, you other guys are fast with your responses! You must have employment like I have where you can just stand by monitoring the forum 12 hours a day at the ready to fire off the first answer possible.)

*insert plumber joke here*