Held Ball on the Throw-in

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Amesman

And a related query from locker room musings weeks ago by a fellow official: While all contact by a defending reaching across to an inbounder is now deemed an intentional foul, what's the call if, as in the OP above, inbounder A reaches across the imaginary line and then is hacked on the arm? Just a personal foul on B?

9.2 PENALTIES . . . intentional foul regardless whether the inbounder has his arms over the in- or out-of-bounds area.

(Shucks, not quick enough again!)

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Freddy

9.2 PENALTIES . . . intentional foul regardless whether the inbounder has his arms over the in- or out-of-bounds area.

(Shucks, not quick enough again!)

Thanks, both. Only had copies of last year's books at the office.

But back to my original sheepish question: Why doesn't possession go to Team B if it's AP (held ball) time? There was no violation or foul by B.

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Amesman

Thanks, both. Only had copies of last year's books at the office.

But back to my original sheepish question: Why doesn't possession go to Team B if it's AP (held ball) time? There was no violation or foul by B.

Thanks Bob, Hawkeye and APG -- was just buried in my own typing in previous comment/question and didin't see your answers. Seems odd that this could go Groundhog's Day if B did it, say, several times in a row.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Amesman

Thanks Bob, Hawkeye and APG -- was just buried in my own typing in previous comment/question and didin't see your answers. Seems odd that this could go Groundhog's Day if B did it, say, several times in a row.

I would say Team A is stupid for repeatedly holding the ball over the plane and allowing Team B to tie them up. Keep the ball on their side of the plane and at worse, they're getting a delay of game warning on B if they cross the plane and miss the ball/thrower.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Amesman

Thanks Bob, Hawkeye and APG -- was just buried in my own typing in previous comment/question and didin't see your answers. Seems odd that this could go Groundhog's Day if B did it, say, several times in a row.

Just the way it is, though. Case play 6.4.5.B.

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Just the way it is, though. Case play 6.4.5.B.

And the first line of that starts, "During an alternating possession throw-in ..." How is it treated differently if this happens during a non-AP determined throw-in? (Sorry, but that was nagging this fuzzbrain since JR brought it up previously.)

Just following through because I get the anxious feeling that, just like playing the same lotto numbers for a while and then quitting -- BAM! -- you know the sitch is going to come up at the next opportunity. After this I merely lurk and learn for a while. Promise.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Amesman

And the first line of that starts, "During an alternating possession throw-in ..." How is it treated differently if this happens during a non-AP determined throw-in? (Sorry, but that was nagging this fuzzbrain since JR brought it up previously.)

Like this:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

2011-2012 NFHS Case Book

*7.6.4 SITUATION F: Thrower A1 inadvertently holds the ball through the endline plane during a throw-in. B1 is able to get his/her hands on the ball and A1 cannot pull it back.

RULING: A held ball is called, resulting in an alternating-possession throw-in. If the original throw-in is an alternating-possession throw-in, Team A still has the arrow following the held ball.