tapped into wrong basket

[Toren]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It could if the try had ended and B touching the ball was not associated with the try. No different than the ball hitting the floor and the ball bouncing up in the air and going in the hole after the horn has gone off.

Peace

It is different because the basketball entered the basket before the horn went off.

So the tap by B1 was not a try attempt, but it doesn't matter, because the ball entered the basket, then the horn sounds. So yes, the points are awarded.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Toren

It is different because the basketball entered the basket before the horn went off.

So the tap by B1 was not a try attempt, but it doesn't matter, because the ball entered the basket, then the horn sounds. So yes, the points are awarded.

I understand all of that and why it still matters if we have a try or not at it relates to the horn. People were answering the question without knowing the status of the horn.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I understand all of that and why it still matters if we have a try or not at it relates to the horn. People were answering the question without knowing the status of the horn.

Peace

Yep, but the question (whether the ball had gone through before or after the horn in the OP) had been answered already, so it didn't matter. I wouldn't want someone thinking there's a reason not to count the score here just because the try may have been over.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yep, but the question (whether the ball had gone through before or after the horn in the OP) had been answered already, so it didn't matter. I wouldn't want someone thinking there's a reason not to count the score here just because the try may have been over.

OK Snaqs, whatever you say.

Peace

[DenverRef]

If you look at Case 6.7.6 Situation B, I guess it doesn't matter as long as the tap was before the horn.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by DenverRef

If you look at Case 6.7.6 Situation B, I guess it doesn't matter as long as the tap was before the horn.

It does matter, if the tap was by B. In that case, the ball has to be in the basket before the horn to count.

I'd give good odds that APG misread the OP when he said it wouldn't count.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

People were answering the question without knowing the status of the horn.

Peace

Uhmmm...did you read the original post? Status of the horn was clearly stated.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Uhmmm...did you read the original post? Status of the horn was clearly stated.

Yes I did. I responded the way I did because the only issue would be is what the result of the try was when the ball was "tapped." It seems to me that the only reason anyone would think that the ball would not count is the "try" had ended. Of course the original situation the ball would count not matter how the ball got into the basket. But if someone thinks the try has ended and the "tap" (which is really an incorrect usage of that word) somehow changed the status of the ball. Why else would you think the ball would not count?

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I understand all of that and why it still matters if we have a try or not at it relates to the horn. People were answering the question without knowing the status of the horn.

Peace

Some of us knew.

Originally Posted by DenverRef

Can you guys help - I keep looking for this and cant find it in the rule book.

B leads A 60-59 in the 4th quarter. A1's try hits the backboard and before the horn sounds B1 taps the ball into A's basket.

Does the basket count?

[Toren]

So did you guys count the basket or did you waive it?

[BktBallRef]

The horn doesn't have a status. That makes no sense whatsoever.

The ball is batted by B and goes into through the basket. The horn sounds. Count the 2 points.

This ain't that difficult folks.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

This ain't that difficult folks.

This ain't rocket surgery.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

A tap is a try even with less than 0.3 on the clock.

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

But not at the opponent's basket.

It is not a tap if it is at the opponents basket....a tap is essentially defined the same way as a try.

4-41-5 . . . A tap for goal is the contacting of the ball with any part of a player’s hand(s) in an attempt to direct the ball into his/her basket.

So, really, we've talking about a "tip" all along.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

It is not a tap if it is at the opponents basket....a tap is essentially defined the same way as a try.

4-41-5 . . . A tap for goal is the contacting of the ball with any part of a player’s hand(s) in an attempt to direct the ball into his/her basket.

So, really, we've talking about a "tip" all along.

The OP called it a tap. By definition, it cannot be a tap. What it is is a bonehead play.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Toren

It is different because the basketball entered the basket before the horn went off.

Yes. If the horn sounds before the ball enters the basket, then the ball becomes dead, since there is no longer a try involved. But if it enters the basket before the horn (or before an official's whistle creates a dead ball), then the goal counts. That would be the same as if a player got confused and shot the ball into the wrong basket. A live ball entering the basket scores as a goal.

So the tap by B1 was not a try attempt, but it doesn't matter, because the ball entered the basket, then the horn sounds. So yes, the points are awarded.

Correct.

Gotta know those scoring rules (Rule 5) and the live ball/dead ball rules (Rule 6).