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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:40pm
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Yes the ball goes through before the horn sounds-

Where in the IAABO rulebook does it cover this?
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:46pm
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Yes the ball goes through before the horn sounds-

Where in the IAABO rulebook does it cover this?
Of course I don't have my rulebook on me, but I will run out at lunch and grab it from my car.

But to answer your question, yes the points are awarded.
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:53pm
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If the "tap" was when the try had not ended, then I see nothing wrong with counting the basket as long as the try was still in flight. B touching the ball itself does not necessarily end the try.

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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:50pm
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If the "tap" was when the try had not ended, then I see nothing wrong with counting the basket as long as the try was still in flight. B touching the ball itself does not necessarily end the try.

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If the tap occurred before the try had ended, I think we'd either have GT or BI. Can't imagine how someone could tap a try into the basket otherwise. We're not talking about a "tip" as occurs when a player attempts to block a shot.
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:57pm
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If the tap occurred before the try had ended, I think we'd either have GT or BI. Can't imagine how someone could tap a try into the basket otherwise. We're not talking about a "tip" as occurs when a player attempts to block a shot.
Well that is the way I read it. I do not think the term "tap" was used in the true sense of the definition. It sounded to me like an explanation of how the ball got into the basket.

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Yes the ball goes through before the horn sounds-

Where in the IAABO rulebook does it cover this?
5-1-1 and 5-2-1.
Any live ball that enters the basket (except a throw-in) scores at least two points. Why would this not count?
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:16pm
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5-1-1 and 5-2-1.
Any live ball that enters the basket (except a throw-in) scores at least two points. Why would this not count?
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:55pm
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If the "tap" was when the try had not ended, then I see nothing wrong with counting the basket as long as the try was still in flight. B touching the ball itself does not necessarily end the try.

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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:00pm
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Doesn't matter.
It could if the try had ended and B touching the ball was not associated with the try. No different than the ball hitting the floor and the ball bouncing up in the air and going in the hole after the horn has gone off.

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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:03pm
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It could if the try had ended and B touching the ball was not associated with the try. No different than the ball hitting the floor and the ball bouncing up in the air and going in the hole after the horn has gone off.

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It is different because the basketball entered the basket before the horn went off.

So the tap by B1 was not a try attempt, but it doesn't matter, because the ball entered the basket, then the horn sounds. So yes, the points are awarded.
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:18pm
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It is different because the basketball entered the basket before the horn went off.

So the tap by B1 was not a try attempt, but it doesn't matter, because the ball entered the basket, then the horn sounds. So yes, the points are awarded.
I understand all of that and why it still matters if we have a try or not at it relates to the horn. People were answering the question without knowing the status of the horn.

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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:35pm
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I understand all of that and why it still matters if we have a try or not at it relates to the horn. People were answering the question without knowing the status of the horn.

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Yep, but the question (whether the ball had gone through before or after the horn in the OP) had been answered already, so it didn't matter. I wouldn't want someone thinking there's a reason not to count the score here just because the try may have been over.
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:39pm
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Yep, but the question (whether the ball had gone through before or after the horn in the OP) had been answered already, so it didn't matter. I wouldn't want someone thinking there's a reason not to count the score here just because the try may have been over.
OK Snaqs, whatever you say.

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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:41pm
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If you look at Case 6.7.6 Situation B, I guess it doesn't matter as long as the tap was before the horn.
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People were answering the question without knowing the status of the horn.

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Uhmmm...did you read the original post? Status of the horn was clearly stated.
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