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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:31pm
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tapped into wrong basket

Can you guys help - I keep looking for this and cant find it in the rule book.

B leads A 60-59 in the 4th quarter. A1's try hits the backboard and before the horn sounds B1 taps the ball into A's basket.

Does the basket count?
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:32pm
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:33pm
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Did the ball enter the basket before the horn?
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:40pm
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Yes the ball goes through before the horn sounds-

Where in the IAABO rulebook does it cover this?
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:46pm
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Yes the ball goes through before the horn sounds-

Where in the IAABO rulebook does it cover this?
Of course I don't have my rulebook on me, but I will run out at lunch and grab it from my car.

But to answer your question, yes the points are awarded.
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:50pm
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Yes the ball goes through before the horn sounds-

Where in the IAABO rulebook does it cover this?
5-1-1 and 5-2-1.
Any live ball that enters the basket (except a throw-in) scores at least two points. Why would this not count?
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What?

Why not?
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:53pm
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If the "tap" was when the try had not ended, then I see nothing wrong with counting the basket as long as the try was still in flight. B touching the ball itself does not necessarily end the try.

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If the "tap" was when the try had not ended, then I see nothing wrong with counting the basket as long as the try was still in flight. B touching the ball itself does not necessarily end the try.

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Yes the ball goes through before the horn sounds-
Where in the IAABO rulebook does it cover this?
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:00pm
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Doesn't matter.
It could if the try had ended and B touching the ball was not associated with the try. No different than the ball hitting the floor and the ball bouncing up in the air and going in the hole after the horn has gone off.

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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:03pm
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It could if the try had ended and B touching the ball was not associated with the try. No different than the ball hitting the floor and the ball bouncing up in the air and going in the hole after the horn has gone off.

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It is different because the basketball entered the basket before the horn went off.

So the tap by B1 was not a try attempt, but it doesn't matter, because the ball entered the basket, then the horn sounds. So yes, the points are awarded.
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:16pm
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5-1-1 and 5-2-1.
Any live ball that enters the basket (except a throw-in) scores at least two points. Why would this not count?
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:18pm
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It is different because the basketball entered the basket before the horn went off.

So the tap by B1 was not a try attempt, but it doesn't matter, because the ball entered the basket, then the horn sounds. So yes, the points are awarded.
I understand all of that and why it still matters if we have a try or not at it relates to the horn. People were answering the question without knowing the status of the horn.

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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:19pm
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It is different because the basketball entered the basket before the horn went off.
Yes. If the horn sounds before the ball enters the basket, then the ball becomes dead, since there is no longer a try involved. But if it enters the basket before the horn (or before an official's whistle creates a dead ball), then the goal counts. That would be the same as if a player got confused and shot the ball into the wrong basket. A live ball entering the basket scores as a goal.

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So the tap by B1 was not a try attempt, but it doesn't matter, because the ball entered the basket, then the horn sounds. So yes, the points are awarded.
Correct.

Gotta know those scoring rules (Rule 5) and the live ball/dead ball rules (Rule 6).
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