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DenverRef Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:31pm

tapped into wrong basket
 
Can you guys help - I keep looking for this and cant find it in the rule book.

B leads A 60-59 in the 4th quarter. A1's try hits the backboard and before the horn sounds B1 taps the ball into A's basket.

Does the basket count?

APG Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:32pm

No.

Toren Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:33pm

Did the ball enter the basket before the horn?

DenverRef Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:40pm

Yes the ball goes through before the horn sounds-

Where in the IAABO rulebook does it cover this?

Toren Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverRef (Post 805352)
Yes the ball goes through before the horn sounds-

Where in the IAABO rulebook does it cover this?

Of course I don't have my rulebook on me, but I will run out at lunch and grab it from my car.

But to answer your question, yes the points are awarded.

Adam Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverRef (Post 805352)
Yes the ball goes through before the horn sounds-

Where in the IAABO rulebook does it cover this?

5-1-1 and 5-2-1.
Any live ball that enters the basket (except a throw-in) scores at least two points. Why would this not count?

rockyroad Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:52pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 805348)
No.

What?

Why not?

JRutledge Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:53pm

If the "tap" was when the try had not ended, then I see nothing wrong with counting the basket as long as the try was still in flight. B touching the ball itself does not necessarily end the try.

Peace

Adam Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 805362)
If the "tap" was when the try had not ended, then I see nothing wrong with counting the basket as long as the try was still in flight. B touching the ball itself does not necessarily end the try.

Peace

Doesn't matter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverRef (Post 805352)
Yes the ball goes through before the horn sounds-
Where in the IAABO rulebook does it cover this?


JRutledge Fri Dec 16, 2011 01:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 805363)
Doesn't matter.

It could if the try had ended and B touching the ball was not associated with the try. No different than the ball hitting the floor and the ball bouncing up in the air and going in the hole after the horn has gone off.

Peace

Toren Fri Dec 16, 2011 01:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 805365)
It could if the try had ended and B touching the ball was not associated with the try. No different than the ball hitting the floor and the ball bouncing up in the air and going in the hole after the horn has gone off.

Peace

It is different because the basketball entered the basket before the horn went off.

So the tap by B1 was not a try attempt, but it doesn't matter, because the ball entered the basket, then the horn sounds. So yes, the points are awarded.

Toren Fri Dec 16, 2011 01:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 805357)
5-1-1 and 5-2-1.
Any live ball that enters the basket (except a throw-in) scores at least two points. Why would this not count?

Saved me a trip to my car at lunch :D

JRutledge Fri Dec 16, 2011 01:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toren (Post 805366)
It is different because the basketball entered the basket before the horn went off.

So the tap by B1 was not a try attempt, but it doesn't matter, because the ball entered the basket, then the horn sounds. So yes, the points are awarded.

I understand all of that and why it still matters if we have a try or not at it relates to the horn. People were answering the question without knowing the status of the horn.

Peace

Scrapper1 Fri Dec 16, 2011 01:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toren (Post 805366)
It is different because the basketball entered the basket before the horn went off.

Yes. If the horn sounds before the ball enters the basket, then the ball becomes dead, since there is no longer a try involved. But if it enters the basket before the horn (or before an official's whistle creates a dead ball), then the goal counts. That would be the same as if a player got confused and shot the ball into the wrong basket. A live ball entering the basket scores as a goal.

Quote:

So the tap by B1 was not a try attempt, but it doesn't matter, because the ball entered the basket, then the horn sounds. So yes, the points are awarded.
Correct.

Gotta know those scoring rules (Rule 5) and the live ball/dead ball rules (Rule 6).

fullor30 Fri Dec 16, 2011 01:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 805348)
No.

huh??


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