tapped into wrong basket

[Toren]

Originally Posted by DenverRef

Can you guys help - I keep looking for this and cant find it in the rule book.

B leads A 60-59 in the 4th quarter. A1's try hits the backboard and before the horn sounds B1 taps the ball into A's basket.

Does the basket count?

Did you guys get it right?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by DenverRef

Can you guys help - I keep looking for this and cant find it in the rule book.

B leads A 60-59 in the 4th quarter. A1's try hits the backboard and before the horn sounds B1 taps the ball into A's basket.

Does the basket count?

Does anyone see a possibility of goaltending?

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Does anyone see a possibility of goaltending?

Goaltending involves a try or tap ... at a team's own basket.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Does anyone see a possibility of goaltending?

In college maybe. But hitting the backboard does not mean much of anything in NF Rules. And even in college the ball must be completely above the rim to be a consideration of being a goal tending violation.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I understand all of that and why it still matters if we have a try or not at it relates to the horn. People were answering the question without knowing the status of the horn.

Peace

Yep, but the question (whether the ball had gone through before or after the horn in the OP) had been answered already, so it didn't matter. I wouldn't want someone thinking there's a reason not to count the score here just because the try may have been over.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Does anyone see a possibility of goaltending?

It seems everybody over thinks sitches, forget buzzer part of question as tap happened before buzzer. I wouldn't think of goaltending as the requirements for goaltending were not mentioned in OP, or you're just adding food for thought?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yep, but the question (whether the ball had gone through before or after the horn in the OP) had been answered already, so it didn't matter. I wouldn't want someone thinking there's a reason not to count the score here just because the try may have been over.

OK Snaqs, whatever you say.

Peace

[DenverRef]

If you look at Case 6.7.6 Situation B, I guess it doesn't matter as long as the tap was before the horn.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by DenverRef

If you look at Case 6.7.6 Situation B, I guess it doesn't matter as long as the tap was before the horn.

It does matter, if the tap was by B. In that case, the ball has to be in the basket before the horn to count.

I'd give good odds that APG misread the OP when he said it wouldn't count.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If the "tap" was when the try had not ended, then I see nothing wrong with counting the basket as long as the try was still in flight. B touching the ball itself does not necessarily end the try.

Peace

If the tap occurred before the try had ended, I think we'd either have GT or BI. Can't imagine how someone could tap a try into the basket otherwise. We're not talking about a "tip" as occurs when a player attempts to block a shot.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by fullor30

It seems everybody over thinks sitches, forget buzzer part of question as tap happened before buzzer. I wouldn't think of goaltending as the requirements for goaltending were not mentioned in OP, or you're just adding food for thought?

When I read the OP, I pictured a shot or layout and the hits the backboard, and then is coming down towards the basket. Then B hits the ball and it goes into the basket - either before or after the horn sounds.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

If the tap occurred before the try had ended, I think we'd either have GT or BI. Can't imagine how someone could tap a try into the basket otherwise. We're not talking about a "tip" as occurs when a player attempts to block a shot.

Well that is the way I read it. I do not think the term "tap" was used in the true sense of the definition. It sounded to me like an explanation of how the ball got into the basket.

Peace

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

People were answering the question without knowing the status of the horn.

Peace

Uhmmm...did you read the original post? Status of the horn was clearly stated.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by DenverRef

Can you guys help - I keep looking for this and cant find it in the rule book.

B leads A 60-59 in the 4th quarter. A1's try hits the backboard and before the horn sounds B1 taps the ball into A's basket.

Does the basket count?

What is your basis in thinking the basket might not count?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I understand all of that and why it still matters if we have a try or not at it relates to the horn. People were answering the question without knowing the status of the horn.

Peace

Some of us knew.

Originally Posted by DenverRef

Can you guys help - I keep looking for this and cant find it in the rule book.

B leads A 60-59 in the 4th quarter. A1's try hits the backboard and before the horn sounds B1 taps the ball into A's basket.

Does the basket count?