Advice on how to handle mouthy players

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by kyref10

My warning comes in the pregame

You're kidding I assume?

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by fullor30

You're kidding I assume?

Why would he be kidding? The purpose of this wonderful game is to score more points than the other team. IMO, too much other BS has entered in - especially on the high school level - and we should nip it in the bud.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Why would he be kidding? The purpose of this wonderful game is to score more points than the other team. IMO, too much other BS has entered in - especially on the high school level - and we should nip it in the bud.

Brain fart, brain fart..............was thinking captains meeting.

You are correct sir!

[kyref10]

Originally Posted by fullor30

You're kidding I assume?

No, why put up with any of it?

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by kyref10

No, why put up with any of it?

You discuss it in pregame or do you mention warnings in captains meeting?

[kyref10]

Originally Posted by fullor30

You discuss it in pregame or do you mention warnings in captains meeting?

Captain's meeting. We tell them about sportsmanship and there is to be no baiting, taunting, or trash talk to opponents or anyone. Coaches are to coach, they play, we ref and not to confuse what our responsibilties are during the game. Why warn again during the game?

[doubleringer]

Originally Posted by kyref10

Captain's meeting. We tell them about sportsmanship and there is to be no baiting, taunting, or trash talk to opponents or anyone. Coaches are to coach, they play, we ref and not to confuse what our responsibilties are during the game. Why warn again during the game?

I disagree. I never talk at pregame about what a foul is going to be or what unsporting is going to be. As soon as you do that, and something comes up that you try to address without a whistle, the coach that listened to your pregame will be up your butt about "you said that would be called at pregame, why wasn't it?". I just say, "Sportsmanship is the priority, you're the captains and the coaches, do a good job of representing your school."

There are too many variables that come up in this game to tell them exactly what an unsportiing act is at pregame.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by doubleringer

I disagree. I never talk at pregame about what a foul is going to be or what unsporting is going to be. As soon as you do that, and something comes up that you try to address without a whistle, the coach that listened to your pregame will be up your butt about "you said that would be called at pregame, why wasn't it?". I just say, "Sportsmanship is the priority, you're the captains and the coaches, do a good job of representing your school."

There are too many variables that come up in this game to tell them exactly what an unsportiing act is at pregame.

My pregame with the captains is quick: "If you see your teammates losing their heads, take care of it for me."

During the game, I'll offer a reminder to a player getting close to the line if he gives me a chance, but I have no intention of creating the impression that they deserve a warning of some sort.

[bainsey]

Required question in our coaches/captains meeting: "Can I expect good sporting behavior from everyone here today?"

My own closing tag: "Question anything you like, as long as you're civil about it. Let's have fun." Seldom do I have an issue.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by doubleringer

I disagree. I never talk at pregame about what a foul is going to be or what unsporting is going to be. As soon as you do that, and something comes up that you try to address without a whistle, the coach that listened to your pregame will be up your butt about "you said that would be called at pregame, why wasn't it?". I just say, "Sportsmanship is the priority, you're the captains and the coaches, do a good job of representing your school."

There are too many variables that come up in this game to tell them exactly what an unsportiing act is at pregame.

I am going to disagree a little. This is not about just talking about a rule, this is about sportsmanship which is required in my area and many areas if you read this board enough. Usually officials come up with a statement that included what is not allowed and if it includes things that promote sportsmanship. Your statement is fine, but general and all it takes is someone to suggest that you were not specific and they will complain later. I have no problem if you tell them you will not tolerate taunting or trash talking. That is not like telling them you will call hand-checking or illegal screens. And to suggest there are too many variables, that is correct, but that is not like saying things that are specific. You are not saying you will not tolerate chest bumping and then the first chest bump so not penalize. Those things are general in nature and are always going to be subject to how far we allow based on the official.

Peace

[jkumpire]

After following this, I have not heard the obvious solution. If plyaer A1 is calling for a foul for this or that, call a foul on his team for the same offense and when A2 complains, just tell him 'that the way A1 wants it called. Talk to him.'

Or, just call fouls on the complainer and sit his rear end on the bench until he learns how to deal with officials and adversity.

[kyref10]

Originally Posted by doubleringer

I disagree. I never talk at pregame about what a foul is going to be or what unsporting is going to be. As soon as you do that, and something comes up that you try to address without a whistle, the coach that listened to your pregame will be up your butt about "you said that would be called at pregame, why wasn't it?". I just say, "Sportsmanship is the priority, you're the captains and the coaches, do a good job of representing your school."

There are too many variables that come up in this game to tell them exactly what an unsportiing act is at pregame.

When did I mention what a foul is going to be? I consider anything a kid has to say about what should or should not have been called "trash" talk. I'm not looking to T up kids and rarely have done so, but the original question asked how to deal with mouthy players. I just prefer to deal with it quickly and consider my captain's meeting their warning.