Intentional Fouls

[Toren]

I had an intentional foul in a girls summer league game, probably 6th or 7th grade, where I told the coach that her player, A5 had thrown and connected with an elbow (I was actually really close to upgrading this to a flagrant). I thought it was pretty clear cut as a minimum intentional. The coach argued that she teaches that. So I quickly explained that her elbows cannot move faster than her upper body and that if she is teaching that it is bad coaching.

In retrospect, I would never have answered the coach the same way at a higher level. And I'm pretty much regretting saying anything beyond what call I had, I'm thinking a dialogue wasn't needed.

Anyone have any great talking points they have used for an intentional foul?

[APG]

I make it a point not to critique how or what a coach coaches...it's only fair if you don't want a coach trying to tell you how to officiate a game. I would have just told the coach that their player was excessively swinging the elbows and caused excessive contact.

[JRutledge]

If we call an intentional foul based on intent and intent alone, then we would call every foul at the end of the game an intentional foul when a team is fouling strategically. This one of the reasons the NCAA got away from that language and called a foul a "Flagrant 1" instead. You can still be called for an intentional foul and not intentionally foul an opponent.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Toren

I had an intentional foul in a girls summer league game, probably 6th or 7th grade, where I told the coach that her player, A5 had thrown and connected with an elbow (I was actually really close to upgrading this to a flagrant). I thought it was pretty clear cut as a minimum intentional. The coach argued that she teaches that. So I quickly explained that her elbows cannot move faster than her upper body and that if she is teaching that it is bad coaching.

In retrospect, I would never have answered the coach the same way at a higher level. And I'm pretty much regretting saying anything beyond what call I had, I'm thinking a dialogue wasn't needed.

Anyone have any great talking points they have used for an intentional foul?

Middle School or AAU, I might respond with, "you might want to reconsider that." More likely I just walk away. High School, just walk away.

[Toren]

Thanks for the comments.

I'm not very good at speaking to coaches yet, so I think while I learn to get better, I will just keep quiet and say very little.

I will keep my talking to spring and summer leagues