T or ignore?....

[vbzebra]

summer game...team B assistant asks for an explanation of a non call during a timeout. i give it, he disagrees (nothing crazy, just disagrees, ok coach).

Team B down big late....14 seconds to go, same B assistant decides to start yelling from bench "you guys missed a really good game, a really good game"...

I did not T, just ignored, clock ran out. I figured "what good would it do to the game now to T him"? clock runs out, game over....

Should i have T'd assistant this late just b/c he's now deciding to complain when down big at this point in game with A holding ball as clock runs out?

Table and benches were set up weird due to many courts in gym...both benches were more in A's frontcourt in 2nd half, which is why i could hear him as trail tableside....

[grunewar]

I'm not letting a coach a coach "show me up," especially an assistant, just because he thinks he can get away with it or because the game is winding down.

If he's just yappin to hear himself yap, I may have passed on it.

But, if he's loud enough, demonstrative enough, looking to show me up, or asking for it, I might whack him!

I really don't care what kind of league it is or what time of yr. I have a threshold and if you cross it you'll know.

Another HTBT moment for me I suppose.

[vbzebra]

wasn't demostrative, just sitting down yelling it. if he stood up, then yes, no question...oh well, live and learn for me i guess

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by vbzebra

assistant decides to start yelling from bench "you guys missed a really good game, a really good game"...

You're right coach, unfortunately I had to work this one ...

[tref]

Originally Posted by BLydic

You're right coach, unfortunately I had to work this one ...

Niiice!

Since when did we start giving assistants explanations?
I think that in & of itself opened the door to the later situation.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by tref

Niiice!

Since when did we start giving assistants explanations?
I think that in & of itself opened the door to the later situation.

A short, polite, conversation during a TO? I'll do that every game, if needed.

The "assistant coaches are there to pass out towels and drive the bus" stuff applies to questioning / complaining issues and can be (and often is) taken too far.

Oh, on the original post -- address the later behavior, even if you decide not to T.

[tref]

I hear ya Bob... In my experiences, when you talk to 1 of them the other 2 to 3 now want explanations. Then the trainer feels the need to talk, pretty soon mom & dad are on the floor asking questions. I'll stick to the script as far as verbal communication goes!

[grunewar]

A simple statement to the HC in passing (or at a TO as Bob may be inferring) works too, "Coach, you need to control your bench."

Usually, they'll get the meaning.....

[tref]

Originally Posted by grunewar

A simple statement to the HC in passing (or at a TO as Bob may be inferring) works too, "Coach, you need to control your bench."

Usually, they'll get the meaning.....

True, I generally go that route when the AC is out of line. For a simple question, I'll ask, "HEAD COACH, do YOU have a question for me?"

The smart ones generally get the meaning

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

I hear ya Bob... In my experiences, when you talk to 1 of them the other 2 to 3 now want explanations. Then the trainer feels the need to talk, pretty soon mom & dad are on the floor asking questions. I'll stick to the script as far as verbal communication goes!

I've don't have a problem answering a question during a timeout, even from an AC. If someone takes that as some sort of license, that's easy enough to deal with.

As for the OP, easy T. That comment in that situation is a borderline T for the HC; Everytime for an AC.

[Mark Padgett]

Just remember that the abbreviation for Assistant Coach is "A$$. Coach".

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by vbzebra

summer game...team B assistant asks for an explanation of a non call during a timeout. i give it, he disagrees (nothing crazy, just disagrees, ok coach).

Team B down big late....14 seconds to go, same B assistant decides to start yelling from bench "you guys missed a really good game, a really good game"...

I did not T, just ignored, clock ran out. I figured "what good would it do to the game now to T him"? clock runs out, game over....

Should i have T'd assistant this late just b/c he's now deciding to complain when down big at this point in game with A holding ball as clock runs out?

Table and benches were set up weird due to many courts in gym...both benches were more in A's frontcourt in 2nd half, which is why i could hear him as trail tableside....

T him. I'm pretty sure I know what you are working this weekend and you (or your fellow association officials) will probably be seeing this same guy during the season. If he gets away with it now he and his HC are gonna be all bewildered when they get T'd up during the season.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

A short, polite, conversation during a TO? I'll do that every game, if needed.

The "assistant coaches are there to pass out towels and drive the bus" stuff applies to questioning / complaining issues and can be (and often is) taken too far.

Oh, on the original post -- address the later behavior, even if you decide not to T.

I'm not explaining calls/no-calls to AC's. I'll tell him where the ball is being put in play, what his player did on a travel, what his player did on an illegal screen call, etc. But I'm not explaining to an AC why I didn't make a call.

[Scrapper1]

Definitely HTBT, but I can't see how a T here makes the game better. With only 14 seconds, if (and that's a big "if" with so little time left) I can say to the head coach, "Hey Coach, you don't really want him to take a T now, do you?" I might. But a T here might actually make things worse by waking up the Head Coach.

As described, I agree with not giving a T.

[vbzebra]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm not explaining calls/no-calls to AC's. I'll tell him where the ball is being put in play, what his player did on a travel, what his player did on an illegal screen call, etc. But I'm not explaining to an AC why I didn't make a call.

good point, thanks! And you're right about what we're working, i'm pretty sure!