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Old Sun Jul 31, 2011, 07:57pm
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Let me amend my earlier answer -- if he asks "what happened there so I can teachmy players?" that's one thing. If he says "wtf was that? you've got to have something there" then it's another.

Each fits the OP "asks for an explanation."
sorry...to specificially quote.....2nd half, t/o red...i'm tableside calling and reporting T.O. in front of red bench. I report, then hear from AC (actually politely), "can you explain to me why that wasn't a backcourt violation?".

i explained, he disagreed, 'ok coach' (by me) and I walked away. didn't hear anymore til around :14 to go and counting.....
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Old Sun Jul 31, 2011, 08:57pm
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sorry...to specificially quote.....2nd half, t/o red...i'm tableside calling and reporting T.O. in front of red bench. I report, then hear from AC (actually politely), "can you explain to me why that wasn't a backcourt violation?".

i explained, he disagreed, 'ok coach' (by me) and I walked away. didn't hear anymore til around :14 to go and counting.....
I'm not answering jeapordy questions. All he's doing is giving you advice in the form of a question, that doesn't qualify, IMO.
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Old Sun Jul 31, 2011, 11:41pm
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sorry...to specificially quote.....2nd half, t/o red...i'm tableside calling and reporting T.O. in front of red bench. I report, then hear from AC (actually politely), "can you explain to me why that wasn't a backcourt violation?".

i explained, he disagreed, 'ok coach' (by me) and I walked away. didn't hear anymore til around :14 to go and counting.....
I see no problem with this question. Seems reasonable, polite and at an appropriate time. I'll answer that.
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Old Mon Aug 01, 2011, 08:43am
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sorry...to specificially quote.....2nd half, t/o red...i'm tableside calling and reporting T.O. in front of red bench. I report, then hear from AC (actually politely), "can you explain to me why that wasn't a backcourt violation?".

i explained, he disagreed, 'ok coach' (by me) and I walked away. didn't hear anymore til around :14 to go and counting.....
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I see no problem with this question. Seems reasonable, polite and at an appropriate time. I'll answer that.
If the HC didn't need an explanation I see no need in giving the AC one.
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Old Mon Aug 01, 2011, 01:58pm
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If the HC didn't need an explanation I see no need in giving the AC one.
Unless they've been a problem or pushing the limits, why create an enemy. If he's truly looking for an explanation, give it to them.
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Unless they've been a problem or pushing the limits, why create an enemy. If he's truly looking for an explanation, give it to them.
Camron you know doggone well that most of the time these are not real questions but accusations wrapped up in a question. If you thought it was something else I am sure you would have called it. Like the common one I am seeing, "Didn't they hit the arm first.......(fill in the blank)?" If I am going to have a debate of any kind, it is not going to be with an AC.

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Old Mon Aug 01, 2011, 02:20pm
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Unless they've been a problem or pushing the limits, why create an enemy. If he's truly looking for an explanation, give it to them.
Rules & regulations are in place to keep order. How is adhering to policies & procedures creating an enemy?

We give him an explanation, now he's calling timeouts & standing up more than usual, walking subs to the table, etc.

For me, if you give them an inch, 8 out of 10 times they'll take a mile. Not saying be rude or degrading to them, but rules & regs are put in place for a reason.

I tend to answer questions from HC on fouls more than violations anyway. I do not have the time to explain why this wasn't a travel. Instead I'd rather go with coach, what foot did you have the pivot being? Of course they cannot answer so its the end of the conversation...

I do not have time to explain why this wasn't a backcourt violation. Instead I'd rather go with, did you think the dribbler had all 3 points across prior to passing the ball? When they look dumbfounded, you'll see it on film coach.

I find it tough to teach rules classes during the course of the game! But I always offer to shoot them any rule via email.

We can discuss fouls & no calls all day, as that is a judgement call & they have a right to know what I saw or (God forbid) thought I saw.
Most times, you explain & they have something else to say. I can live with that from the coach, its his job. But no back & forth whatsoever with ACs or players.
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I don't find it all that difficult to draw the line at an inch, if that's where I want it drawn. If the AC wants to take my courtesy as some sort of license, that's his problem, not mine.
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Old Mon Aug 01, 2011, 03:14pm
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I don't find it all that difficult to draw the line at an inch, if that's where I want it drawn. If the AC wants to take my courtesy as some sort of license, that's his problem, not mine.
True, but why even allow for the opportunity to occur?
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I do not have time to explain why this wasn't a backcourt violation...
It was a timeout, what else would you need to do for the next 60 seconds?

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Most times, you explain & they have something else to say. I can live with that from the coach, its his job. But no back & forth whatsoever with ACs or players.
Then you walk away...but just because it might turn into that doesn't mean it will...particularly if the assistant hasn't said a word all game. Give them a short answer and move on.
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Old Tue Aug 02, 2011, 10:29am
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It was a timeout, what else would you need to do for the next 60 seconds?
Talk to my partners, look at hot chicks, get the sweat out of my eyes, etc, etc.
Basically, many other things besides having discussions with an AC.

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Then you walk away...but just because it might turn into that doesn't mean it will...particularly if the assistant hasn't said a word all game. Give them a short answer and move on.
One for sure way it wont turn into that... only give explainations to the HC! And as I previously stated, for the most part, HCs rarely get in-game rules clinics. They should know the basic rules (backcourt, travel, illegal dribble) at the levels I work. Judgement call questions will always get time of day, when time permits & through the proper channels. And that has worked for me on my journey.
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