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Old Sat Jul 30, 2011, 08:00am
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assistant decides to start yelling from bench "you guys missed a really good game, a really good game"...
You're right coach, unfortunately I had to work this one ...
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Old Sat Jul 30, 2011, 09:24am
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You're right coach, unfortunately I had to work this one ...
Niiice!

Since when did we start giving assistants explanations?
I think that in & of itself opened the door to the later situation.
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Old Sat Jul 30, 2011, 09:33am
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Niiice!

Since when did we start giving assistants explanations?
I think that in & of itself opened the door to the later situation.
A short, polite, conversation during a TO? I'll do that every game, if needed.

The "assistant coaches are there to pass out towels and drive the bus" stuff applies to questioning / complaining issues and can be (and often is) taken too far.

Oh, on the original post -- address the later behavior, even if you decide not to T.
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Old Sat Jul 30, 2011, 09:54am
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I hear ya Bob... In my experiences, when you talk to 1 of them the other 2 to 3 now want explanations. Then the trainer feels the need to talk, pretty soon mom & dad are on the floor asking questions. I'll stick to the script as far as verbal communication goes!
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Old Sat Jul 30, 2011, 09:58am
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A simple statement to the HC in passing (or at a TO as Bob may be inferring) works too, "Coach, you need to control your bench."

Usually, they'll get the meaning.....
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Old Sat Jul 30, 2011, 10:20am
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A simple statement to the HC in passing (or at a TO as Bob may be inferring) works too, "Coach, you need to control your bench."

Usually, they'll get the meaning.....
True, I generally go that route when the AC is out of line. For a simple question, I'll ask, "HEAD COACH, do YOU have a question for me?"

The smart ones generally get the meaning
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Old Sat Jul 30, 2011, 11:21am
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I hear ya Bob... In my experiences, when you talk to 1 of them the other 2 to 3 now want explanations. Then the trainer feels the need to talk, pretty soon mom & dad are on the floor asking questions. I'll stick to the script as far as verbal communication goes!
I've don't have a problem answering a question during a timeout, even from an AC. If someone takes that as some sort of license, that's easy enough to deal with.

As for the OP, easy T. That comment in that situation is a borderline T for the HC; Everytime for an AC.
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Old Sat Jul 30, 2011, 12:20pm
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A short, polite, conversation during a TO? I'll do that every game, if needed.

The "assistant coaches are there to pass out towels and drive the bus" stuff applies to questioning / complaining issues and can be (and often is) taken too far.

Oh, on the original post -- address the later behavior, even if you decide not to T.
I'm not explaining calls/no-calls to AC's. I'll tell him where the ball is being put in play, what his player did on a travel, what his player did on an illegal screen call, etc. But I'm not explaining to an AC why I didn't make a call.
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Old Sat Jul 30, 2011, 12:52pm
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I'm not explaining calls/no-calls to AC's. I'll tell him where the ball is being put in play, what his player did on a travel, what his player did on an illegal screen call, etc. But I'm not explaining to an AC why I didn't make a call.
good point, thanks! And you're right about what we're working, i'm pretty sure!
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Old Sat Jul 30, 2011, 08:07pm
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I'm not explaining calls/no-calls to AC's. I'll tell him where the ball is being put in play, what his player did on a travel, what his player did on an illegal screen call, etc. But I'm not explaining to an AC why I didn't make a call.
If the HC is not saying anything, I am certainly not saying anything to the AC. I get that some do not like that approach, but I have enough to do and to answer to with a coach, I am not listening to 5 people and getting 5 different conversations. I am having one conversation and if the HC has something to say, then he should do that and not the AC. Also timeouts are different in anyway. A conversation during a timeout better be non-confrontational and better be so they can get information. The minute that turns to what I must do or explain then the conversation is over, whether that is AC or the HC. And the reality is the experienced coaches know this anyway and this is not a problem. It is usually the ignorant coaches that either do not have the experience that this is a problem.

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Old Sun Jul 31, 2011, 01:52am
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I'm not explaining calls/no-calls to AC's. I'll tell him where the ball is being put in play, what his player did on a travel, what his player did on an illegal screen call, etc. But I'm not explaining to an AC why I didn't make a call.
If you explain one type of decision, why not the other?

If asked appropriately, respectfully and at the right time, I have no problem answering a question from an assistant.
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If you explain one type of decision, why not the other?

If asked appropriately, respectfully and at the right time, I have no problem answering a question from an assistant.
I'll give information, but I am not explaining anything to an AC. There is a difference between 'answering a question' and 'explaining a call/no-call'. And I made that clear in my original post.
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Old Sun Jul 31, 2011, 06:15am
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I'll give information, but I am not explaining anything to an AC. There is a difference between 'answering a question' and 'explaining a call/no-call'. And I made that clear in my original post.
Big difference.

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Old Sun Jul 31, 2011, 04:45am
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You're right coach, unfortunately I had to work this one ...

Classic!!!! Well-played.
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