Good game management?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

The problem I see, depending on game situation, is that this kid might be his best player, and your invented penalty of telling the coach to bench him would be WORSE to that team than simply giving them the penalty they earned (the T) ... if the T is even necessary. Who knows how long before that next dead ball so he can reenter ... who knows if you've now forced that team to use a TO to get the kid back in. I can think of SO many things wrong about this, I'm very surprised it's tolerated, much less suggested or accepted.

The emphasis of summer ball is not winning so much as instruction, playing time, conditioning, etc. IOW, it's a learning time. Some coaches request this remedy.
Some don't even shoot free throws for Ts (some just give points, some shoot one shot) in the summer. Others would rather sit the kid, skip the free throws, and keep the game moving.
That said, if I were ever to make such a suggestion, it would be a suggestion only, and a coach would be free to ignore it without penalty. But if I was to take that step, the player would be awfully close to earning the T.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I can think of NO instance where telling a coach to bench a player is appropriate.

That's on me. I misread that part. I didn't see past "the fingers." I agree with you, MB.

[tref]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I can think of NO instance where telling a coach to bench a player is appropriate.

Just got this email from the assignor of this weekends tournament...

Tournament Regulations and Guidelines  For 9th -12th Grade Division

Inappropriate behavior will not be tolerated!!! A referee may remove players from the game or tournament for inappropriate behavior. We are here for the kids. Do not allow or condone poor sportsmanship. This includes coaches and parents!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tref

Just got this email from the assignor of this weekends tournament...

Tournament Regulations and Guidelines  For 9th -12th Grade Division

Inappropriate behavior will not be tolerated!!! A referee may remove players from the game or tournament for inappropriate behavior. We are here for the kids. Do not allow or condone poor sportsmanship. This includes coaches and parents!

Hey, when in Rome, wear a toga.

Hopefully they have some security in place to help enforce the policy.

[tref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Hopefully they have some security in place to help enforce the policy.

Probably not, but I've very rarely went there anyway. And if I do, hey its Colorado not the 2 up 2 down

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tref

Probably not, but I've very rarely went there anyway. And if I do, hey its Colorado not the 2 up 2 down

Shoot, I've heard some stories about the Springs. And Colfax Ave is famous among Air Force folks.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I find nothing wrong with Snag's approach ... but the OP's approach is awful. I can think of NO instance where telling a coach to bench a player is appropriate. T him or don't T him - as you say, HTBT. But telling the coach whether he can play a player or not is incredibly awful. We, as officials, have absolutely no right to do this. If his actions warrant the T, do it... but even if they do, he can stay in the game - where is it even remotely our place to suggest he sit? Just awful.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'll usually just say something along the lines of, "Coach, you might want to have a word with #23."

So how did Phil Jackson reply when you told him to have a word with Michael Jordan?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Personally, I'd give the T; but I've got no issue with some preventive officiating here. I don't ask the coach to pull the player, however. I'll usually just say something along the lines of, "Coach, you might want to have a word with #23."

I do the same....."Coach, #23 is very close to trouble. Can you help us with him".

Most will deal with it and are very appreciative of the opportunity to reel them in before we penalize. I've even had a few that voluntarily benched the player when I've brought certain actions to their attention....problem solved.