Block/Charge/Player Control?

[RookieDude]

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Well, you can't "player control." In order for a foul to be a player control foul, it needs to be a foul first. Hell, you could have a blocking foul on A1 which would be PC, but he blocked.
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Case book 10.6.1 SITUATION G
"Player A1 with the ball is between the endline and the basket and leaps back toward the basket in a shot attempt and dislodges B1 who is in a legal guarding position.
Ruling: Player control foul on A1."

Hell, the case book calls this play a "player control" foul without distinguishing what kind of foul it is originally...so where does it say "it needs to be a foul first."?

Dude

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by RookieDude
Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Well, you can't "player control." In order for a foul to be a player control foul, it needs to be a foul first. Hell, you could have a blocking foul on A1 which would be PC, but he blocked.
__________________________________________________ __________
Case book 10.6.1 SITUATION G
"Player A1 with the ball is between the endline and the basket and leaps back toward the basket in a shot attempt and dislodges B1 who is in a legal guarding position.
Ruling: Player control foul on A1."

Hell, the case book calls this play a "player control" foul without distinguishing what kind of foul it is originally...so where does it say "it needs to be a foul first."?

Dude

You don't have to distinguish it - I was just trying to point out that you only have a player control foul when the player with the ball commits an infraction that would normally result in a foul (push, block, etc.). to illustrate the point that a PC foul still requires contact.

Where does it say that a PC needs to be a foul first? 4-19-6: A player-control foul is a common foul committed by a player while he/she is in control of the ball or by an airborne shooter.