Is there such an animal as a False Multiple Technical?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Isn't it also a substitution opportunity?

No substitute at the table, and no horn for a substitute. An unused opportunity. And an official is not administering a throwin here, a time that most of us use to make sure that there aren't six team members on the court.

And, yes, I am looking for a valid reason to charge a technical foul here, not because I'm looking to be "that guy" and charge a technical foul, but rather, I'm looking for a citation that tells me when a technical foul can be charged, by the book.

I would love the rule to state that the sixth player must be "caught in the act" while the ball is live, or while the ball is dead and the clock is running, but the rule doesn't say that. It says, "Penalized if discovered while being violated (six team members participating)". Maybe this is one of those NFHS rules where the interpretation must be like Justice Potter Stewart's, "I know it (six team members participating simultaneously) when I see it".

Jurassic Referee, and Snaqwells, have impeccable credentials, but I would like to hear from a few other esteemed members on this issue. What defines, or describes, by the book, six team members participating simultaneously?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

No substitute at the table, and no horn for a substitute. An unused opportunity. And an official is not administering a throwin here, a time that most of us use to make sure that there aren't six team members on the court.

And instead of thinking about it, you're still looking for a reason to ignore standard mechanics.

In the situation that you cited, in your own words you said the ball was still dead. That means by rule ....specifically NFHS rules 6-1-2(b) and 7-6-2.....the throw-in has not started. Iow, it's a dead ball and clock not running situation.

What are we supposed to do when we recognize a team has a 6 players on the court when the clock is stopped, the ball is dead and it's BEFORE a throw-in has started? Any throw-in?

Hint: it ain't sitting there with your whistle up your azz waiting for the ball to become live so you can call a career-ending "T".

if you can't figure out for yourself that NOBODY is participating in the game while the ball is dead and the clock is stopped, then there's no hope for you. Sorry, but there it is.

And I'm through wasting my time on this too. You take this nonsense way too far sometimes imo.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

NOBODY is participating in the game while the ball is dead and the clock is stopped.

Seems pretty straight forward.