How to deal with bad refs

[coach-rec]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Now, you're next thread will be titled "How to deal with JRut"

Jrut's ok, he's just bored. I'm considering lobbying to get him an offer to ref some of these games so I can chew his ear a little and then he won't be so bored after giving me a T

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by coach-rec

Jrut's ok, he's just bored. I'm considering lobbying to get him an offer to ref some of these games so I can chew his ear a little and then he won't be so bored after giving me a T

That's depends on the context of your actions and words.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by coach-rec

Jrut's ok, he's just bored. I'm considering lobbying to get him an offer to ref some of these games so I can chew his ear a little and then he won't be so bored after giving me a T

Lobby all you want to, I do not work those games. I am much happier to not deal with coaches that whine about calls instead of helping kids have a good time playing a fun game.

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

Just FYI - our local kids rec league pays $30 for HS level games (boys and girls) to experienced officials. We work two or three games in a shift, all with a two person crew. Games are 7 minute stop time quarters with a 3 minute halftime and teams get four 30-second timeouts for the game, so the games go pretty quickly (also 15 point "mercy" rule - no back court guarding). We don't switch on every foul, but we do switch on virtually every shooting foul. On non-shooting fouls, we switch if it "makes sense" - meaning if the positioning of the refs when the foul was called makes it more logical to switch (I think you guys know what I mean). We call this "convenience mechanics".

Sure - we get complaints that the refs are favoring one team over the other. However, those complaints usually come from both teams.

Oh yeah - since we don't really designate a referee and an umpire, I always ask my partner just before tip off if he wants to throw up or have the runs.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Games are 7 minute stop time quarters with a 3 minute halftime and teams get four 30-second timeouts for the game, so the games go pretty quickly (also 15 point "mercy" rule - no back court guarding).

So how long is overtime

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by tref

So how long is overtime

I'm sorry. I am not familiar with that term.

Seriously, we don't have them at 3rd and 4th grade (games end in a tie, so be it) and we use two minutes for all other grades, if memory serves me. After two minutes, if it's still tied, the game is declared a tie. We can't "stack up" games since we are restricted as to how much gym time we have.

[just another ref]

As to the refs being certified or not, as others have stated, it is certainly not a cure-all if they are certified. Attitude toward the game is probably more important. A state finals official may call your game one night as a favor to somebody, but think that the game is beneath him. This guy may not do the job as well on that particular night as a rookie still hungry for time on the court and striving to improve.

[BBrules]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Sure - we get complaints that the refs are favoring one team over the other. However, those complaints usually come from both teams.

When I have one of the coaches tell me, "Man, you sure did right by us tonight" I'll get worried