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Old Tue Mar 15, 2011, 12:20am
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T or not T, that is the question?
This was posted on the NF site and I felt it was interesting considering the previous conversations.

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Team A hits an apparent game winning shot with 3 seconds remaining and fans go crazy. Team B is bringing ball up court and shoots a desperation shot that falls short and buzzer sounds. Fans run on court, player A rips off shirt in excitement and it appears game is over. Apparently a timeout may have been called, before the shot, by coach B. Ref is at table discussing the situation. Ref decides to put 1.5 on clock and give ball to B at division line. The question is would YOU give team A technical for the shirt coming off?
What do we do here?

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Old Tue Mar 15, 2011, 12:25am
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Nope...no T from me.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2011, 12:25am
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This was posted on the NF site and I felt it was interesting considering the previous conversations.



What do we do here?

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Based on others' previous opinions, nothing other than resume play with 1.5 seconds left, assuming that the official had definite knowledge.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2011, 05:23am
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No technical foul here...this is an honest mistake by the player who thought the game was over...we get paid for our judgment of the rules...use good judgment here.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2011, 05:45am
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Old Fri Mar 18, 2011, 10:29pm
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No technical foul here...this is an honest mistake by the player who thought the game was over...we get paid for our judgment of the rules...use good judgment here.
Game is not over until the officials leave. You have no choice but to T. If not, you are setting aside a rule. If you set aside a rule, you have no support.
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Old Fri Mar 18, 2011, 10:45pm
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I am horrified by the number of you who would call a "T" in this case. Put the rulebook aside and use a little common sense.
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Old Fri Mar 18, 2011, 11:18pm
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Common sense = "How come everyone else doesn't think like I do?"
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Old Sat Mar 19, 2011, 01:06pm
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I am horrified by the number of you who would call a "T" in this case. Put the rulebook aside and use a little common sense.
While I agree with you on this play, the rule makers do not.

Also, the idea of using common sense should be used carefully; and only based on what's expected in your area. There very well may be locales where the powers that be want this called according to the rule and case.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2011, 06:58am
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From the '05-'06 NFHS Interps:

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SITUATION 3: Team A is leading 62-60 when the horn sounds to end the game. A1 then removes his/her jersey near the team bench (a) before the officials leave the visual confines of the playing area; or (b) after the officials leave the visual confines of the playing area. RULING: In (a), A1 is assessed a technical foul. Team B is awarded two free throws; if both are successful, overtime will be played. In (b), since the officials' jurisdiction has ended, no penalty is assessed. (3-4-15; 2-2-4; 10-4-1h)
It doesn't matter if the kid thought the game was over. In the interp, the game horn actually had sounded, and it's still a technical foul. The uniform may not be used for demonstrative purposes.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2011, 07:01am
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From the '05-'06 NFHS Interps:

It doesn't matter if the kid thought the game was over. In the interp, the game horn actually had sounded, and it's still a technical foul. The uniform may not be used for demonstrative purposes.
I still wouldn't call a technical foul. May the lord of the NFHS have mercy on my soul.
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I'm with Rich. No way.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2011, 04:13pm
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I still wouldn't call a technical foul.
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I'm with Rich. No way.
Jersey? What jersey? Player? What player? Where's the key to the official's room? Can we get some cold drinks please?
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2011, 04:47pm
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Jersey? What jersey? Player? What player? Where's the key to the official's room? Can we get some cold drinks please?
They could start a brawl five seconds after the final horn and I wouldn't notice. There are adults present (coaches and likely parents) who are responsible for their little darlings. Once the horn goes, I'm heading for the shower.
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i still wouldn't call a technical foul. May the lord of the nfhs have mercy on my soul.
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