T or not T, that is the question?

[Welpe]

I'm calling the T....













....if I want to make sure that I never advance to working varsity ball.

[26 Year Gap]

I'm sure it was out of my primary.

[Tio]

No way... calling a technical foul here would be a travesty. Have some common sense.

[DesMoines]

If I call that T, I'm going to having more than my share of cold drinks ... either from the bleachers or after all the 3rd, 4th & 5th grade "noncompetitive" games I'll be getting.

No effing way. (Somebody T me.)

[efbyon]

...I do know of an official from our officials association that actually called it the way the NF ruling states from the casebook, per Scrapper1 above. Boys varsity game. home team thought they won the game, and one of the home team players, presumably for celebatory purposes, took off his shirt within the sight of the official in question. Technical foul. Game did go into overtime, where (I think) the home team eventually won.

I haven't talked to this official in a while, but he is still a member of our group. I certainly would like to know what his rationale was. NF actually did state that the rule was to be applied in "all situations," per what was mentioned in the new rule rationales in the back of the book in the year the new rule was inserted, so it's possible he may have been keying off that.

But I would have to agree with everyone else: unless I have reason to believe that for him taking off his shirt was because he was truly attempting to be unsporting in some way, such as trying to show me up or an opponent, then likely I am letting this slide.

Fred

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I'm calling the T....if I want to make sure that I never advance to working varsity ball.

Interesting. I know some officials that are afraid they won't advance if they DON'T call something like this, particularly if they have the book the back them up.

Let's take this a step further, though. Instead of taking off a shirt, let's say A-1 points and taunts B-2 after the buzzer. For those that won't whack a shirt removal, would you whack this?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Let's take this a step further, though. Instead of taking off a shirt, let's say A-1 points and taunts B-2 after the buzzer. For those that won't whack a shirt removal, would you whack this?

The chances of me seeing this are virtually zero. I get tunnel vision after the horn blows. I see two things; the table and the exit.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The chances of me seeing this are virtually zero. I get tunnel vision after the horn blows. I see two things; the table and the exit.

I've already checked the table on the previous timeout (or the game is so lopsided there's nothing worth checking for). Horn, me, exit. I consider it good planning when I'm positioned right next to the door when that horn blows.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Let's take this a step further, though. Instead of taking off a shirt, let's say A-1 points and taunts B-2 after the buzzer. For those that won't whack a shirt removal, would you whack this?

Another good question and interesting point.....

Yes, I would whack that if I saw it. The difference to me? This one is definitely unsporting behavior. The other one is premature exuberance with no intent to commit an unsporting act. And unfortunately the rules don't delineate the difference between unsporting behavior and over-celebrating.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Yes, I would whack that if I saw it. The difference to me? This one is definitely unsporting behavior.

+1

You'd undoubtedly get a rash of "but the game is OVER!" objections, and perhaps never see an angrier throng of individuals, but if they knew everyone is responsible for their behavior until the true game's end, that lesson wouldn't have to be learned the hard way.