T or not T, that is the question?

[Scrapper1]

From the '05-'06 NFHS Interps:

SITUATION 3: Team A is leading 62-60 when the horn sounds to end the game. A1 then removes his/her jersey near the team bench (a) before the officials leave the visual confines of the playing area; or (b) after the officials leave the visual confines of the playing area. RULING: In (a), A1 is assessed a technical foul. Team B is awarded two free throws; if both are successful, overtime will be played. In (b), since the officials' jurisdiction has ended, no penalty is assessed. (3-4-15; 2-2-4; 10-4-1h)

It doesn't matter if the kid thought the game was over. In the interp, the game horn actually had sounded, and it's still a technical foul. The uniform may not be used for demonstrative purposes.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

From the '05-'06 NFHS Interps:

It doesn't matter if the kid thought the game was over. In the interp, the game horn actually had sounded, and it's still a technical foul. The uniform may not be used for demonstrative purposes.

I still wouldn't call a technical foul. May the lord of the NFHS have mercy on my soul.

[DesMoines]

I'm with Rich. No way.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I still wouldn't call a technical foul.

Originally Posted by DesMoines

I'm with Rich. No way.

Jersey? What jersey? Player? What player? Where's the key to the official's room? Can we get some cold drinks please?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Jersey? What jersey? Player? What player? Where's the key to the official's room? Can we get some cold drinks please?

They could start a brawl five seconds after the final horn and I wouldn't notice. There are adults present (coaches and likely parents) who are responsible for their little darlings. Once the horn goes, I'm heading for the shower.

[APG]

Originally Posted by richmsn

i still wouldn't call a technical foul. May the lord of the nfhs have mercy on my soul.

+1

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

From the '05-'06 NFHS Interps:

It doesn't matter if the kid thought the game was over. In the interp, the game horn actually had sounded, and it's still a technical foul. The uniform may not be used for demonstrative purposes.

This is where our judgment comes in.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

From the '05-'06 NFHS Interps:

It doesn't matter if the kid thought the game was over. In the interp, the game horn actually had sounded, and it's still a technical foul. The uniform may not be used for demonstrative purposes.

So you are going to whack the kid...really?

[Welpe]

I'm calling the T....













....if I want to make sure that I never advance to working varsity ball.

[26 Year Gap]

I'm sure it was out of my primary.

[Tio]

No way... calling a technical foul here would be a travesty. Have some common sense.

[DesMoines]

If I call that T, I'm going to having more than my share of cold drinks ... either from the bleachers or after all the 3rd, 4th & 5th grade "noncompetitive" games I'll be getting.

No effing way. (Somebody T me.)

[efbyon]

...I do know of an official from our officials association that actually called it the way the NF ruling states from the casebook, per Scrapper1 above. Boys varsity game. home team thought they won the game, and one of the home team players, presumably for celebatory purposes, took off his shirt within the sight of the official in question. Technical foul. Game did go into overtime, where (I think) the home team eventually won.

I haven't talked to this official in a while, but he is still a member of our group. I certainly would like to know what his rationale was. NF actually did state that the rule was to be applied in "all situations," per what was mentioned in the new rule rationales in the back of the book in the year the new rule was inserted, so it's possible he may have been keying off that.

But I would have to agree with everyone else: unless I have reason to believe that for him taking off his shirt was because he was truly attempting to be unsporting in some way, such as trying to show me up or an opponent, then likely I am letting this slide.

Fred

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I'm calling the T....if I want to make sure that I never advance to working varsity ball.

Interesting. I know some officials that are afraid they won't advance if they DON'T call something like this, particularly if they have the book the back them up.

Let's take this a step further, though. Instead of taking off a shirt, let's say A-1 points and taunts B-2 after the buzzer. For those that won't whack a shirt removal, would you whack this?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Let's take this a step further, though. Instead of taking off a shirt, let's say A-1 points and taunts B-2 after the buzzer. For those that won't whack a shirt removal, would you whack this?

The chances of me seeing this are virtually zero. I get tunnel vision after the horn blows. I see two things; the table and the exit.