End of USF/Gonzaga TO

[ODJ]

Scramble for ball with 10 secs. left in San Fran - Gonzaga WCC semi tonight.

USF (down 3 pts.) player recovers ball in front of USF bench. #13 USF calls for a time out. Granted by Trail. USF was out of time outs. Tech.

#13 was not in the game. He was on the bench. Jumped up in the excitement and called for the TO. Trail pointed at him and ID'd #13 as person who called the time out.

NCAA rules. Is this correct?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ODJ

Scramble for ball with 10 secs. left in San Fran - Gonzaga WCC semi tonight.

USF (down 3 pts.) player recovers ball in front of USF bench. #13 USF calls for a time out. Granted by Trail. USF was out of time outs. Tech.

#13 was not in the game. He was on the bench. Jumped up in the excitement and called for the TO. Trail pointed at him and ID'd #13 as person who called the time out.

The official pointed to the bench, not #13. That is what is customary when a player or coach requests a timeout. The player on the floor called a timeout, not anyone on the bench.

Originally Posted by ODJ

NCAA rules. Is this correct?

Is what correct?

Peace

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by ODJ

Scramble for ball with 10 secs. left in San Fran - Gonzaga WCC semi tonight.

USF (down 3 pts.) player recovers ball in front of USF bench. #13 USF calls for a time out. Granted by Trail. USF was out of time outs. Tech.

#13 was not in the game. He was on the bench. Jumped up in the excitement and called for the TO. Trail pointed at him and ID'd #13 as person who called the time out.

NCAA rules. Is this correct?

Check the replay. A player on the floor also called time..then another player came running towards him yelling "No, No...."

[just another ref]

#13 was in the game. He's the one who made the steal.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ODJ

Scramble for ball with 10 secs. left in San Fran - Gonzaga WCC semi tonight.

USF (down 3 pts.) player recovers ball in front of USF bench. #13 USF calls for a time out. Granted by Trail. USF was out of time outs. Tech.

#13 was not in the game. He was on the bench. Jumped up in the excitement and called for the TO. Trail pointed at him and ID'd #13 as person who called the time out.

NCAA rules. Is this correct?

Without regard to the accuracy of your description of the play, a TO should not be granted when bench personnel other than the head coach requests a TO.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Without regard to the accuracy of your description of the play, a TO should not be granted when bench personnel other than the head coach requests a TO.

What if the official does blow the whistle and grant the TO. Inadvertent whislte, play on?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by grunewar

What if the official does blow the whistle and grant the TO. Inadvertent whislte, play on?

Yes.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Without regard to the accuracy of your description of the play, a TO should not be granted when bench personnel other than the head coach requests a TO.

That should go without saying. And that is not what took place on this play.

Peace

[ODJ]

#13 USF was a tall lanky kid (freshman) on the bench.
Trail pointed right at him - whether it was "at him" or just the direction. HC asked who called it, but didn't press the issue.
I didn't see a player on the floor call TO, but coulda been verbal in the scrum.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ODJ

#13 USF was a tall lanky kid (freshman) on the bench.
Trail pointed right at him - whether it was "at him" or just the direction. HC asked who called it, but didn't press the issue.
I didn't see a player on the floor call TO, but coulda been verbal in the scrum.

Again, the official did not point at the player, he pointed at the bench because the player with the ball called for a timeout. There were players on the bench asking for one, but that is not the reason he gave one as the player with the ball was yelling for a timeout. I think you are getting too caught up in the point as I said before it is common to point at the bench when a timeout is granted by an official.

Peace

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Again, the official did not point at the player, he pointed at the bench because the player with the ball called for a timeout. There were players on the bench asking for one, but that is not the reason he gave one as the player with the ball was yelling for a timeout. I think you are getting too caught up in the point as I said before it is common to point at the bench when a timeout is granted by an official.
Peace

+1
I mean how would it look if signaled at W30 calling a TO in front of BLUE's bench? I think the BLUE coach may have a slight coronary malfunction at that point!

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by ODJ

#13 was not in the game. He was on the bench. Jumped up in the excitement and called for the TO. Trail pointed at him and ID'd #13 as person who called the time out.

In that case, the T is for having 6 players participating?

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by ODJ

#13 USF was a tall lanky kid (freshman) on the bench.
Trail pointed right at him - whether it was "at him" or just the direction. HC asked who called it, but didn't press the issue.
I didn't see a player on the floor call TO, but coulda been verbal in the scrum.

(Sigh)

Check the video. The kid your referrring to was #10, and yes he was was motioning for a time out while standing in front of the bench. HOWEVER, #13, on the floor with the ball yelled "time." Another player rushes in towards him, yelling , "No, No."

Watch as you see the coach ask: "who called time", and you will see the calling referee report #13 to the table, holding up one finger one hand and then three on the other.

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[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

(Sigh)

Check the video. The kid your referrring to was #10, and yes he was was motioning for a time out while standing in front of the bench. HOWEVER, #13, on the floor with the ball yelled "time." Another player rushes in towards him, yelling , "No, No."

Watch as you see the coach ask: "who called time", and you will see the calling referee report #13 to the table, holding up one finger one hand and then three on the other.

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+1

Obvious as hell on the replay......