Good block?

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is real simple. Call what is expected in your area. That is what I am going to do. This is not a foul for me at any level, not with the players I see.

Peace

How about posting a clip of what you would call a foul! You must reff in the Army or for the Navy Seals!!

[Blindolbat]

Foul any day of the week.

[Pantherdreams]

Lets see. The ball has been blocked before any contact occurs. Neither player then has an immediate play on a ball that is going to be dead anyway. Contact to not clearly and immediately disadvantage anyone, since the shot has already been blocked and ball is on its way to the third row anyway. I wouldn't say contact like this is going to lead to rough play, . . . I've got no foul.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

Lets see. The ball has been blocked before any contact occurs. Neither player then has an immediate play on a ball that is going to be dead anyway. Contact to not clearly and immediately disadvantage anyone, since the shot has already been blocked and ball is on its way to the third row anyway. I wouldn't say contact like this is going to lead to rough play, . . . I've got no foul.

A has a right to not have to land on his head.

[Raymond]

In my college conferences my supervisors would not want a foul called on this play.

In HS, if I were in position to see the hit to the head I would call a foul. Would not call a foul at either level for the body contact.

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

A has a right to not have to land on his head.

He also has the right to remain silent, right to positive learning environment, and a vast array of others . . . these don't mean that how he lands because of contact (after the ball is on its way out of bounds that doesn't disadvantage him or his team) needs to be called a foul. He could try out for the cheerleading team if how he lands may/may not incur a foul.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

How about posting a clip of what you would call a foul! You must reff in the Army or for the Navy Seals!!

I do not have to prove anything to you. It is not a foul at the levels I work. If you want to call that, go right ahead. But you will be suspect if you call that where I work and not expect some body contact on blocked shots. Never been reprimanded for not calling this a foul.

Peace

[VaTerp]

OOB. Black ball.

[just another ref]

With this much contact it is not a stretch to call a foul even if the contact was after the ball is completely out of play, which it clearly was not in the OP.

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not have to prove anything to you. It is not a foul at the levels I work. If you want to call that, go right ahead. But you will be suspect if you call that where I work and not expect some body contact on blocked shots. Never been reprimanded for not calling this a foul.

Peace

You're right you don't have to prove anything to me. I only reff HS V all the way down to 3-4 grade, not varsity elementary, just third grade and fourth grade. If I passed on that foul in any kind of HS game I would be reprimanded for not making this call.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

You're right you don't have to prove anything to me. I only reff HS V all the way down to 3-4 grade, not varsity elementary, just third grade and fourth grade. If I passed on that foul in any kind of HS game I would be reprimanded for not making this call.

OK.

Peace

[eyezen]

Might call the foul, but only due to the arm hitting the head. But I would have no issues with those that don't have a whistle for a foul.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by eyezen

But I would have no issues with those that don't have a whistle for a foul.

While I do understand the reasoning behind not calling the foul - (discounting the contact on the head) the contact didn't cause the blocked shot, and neither player was going to retrieve the ball before going OOB - would it make a difference if there was another defender standing right along the endline, and they managed to catch the ball before it went OOB? Now the ball remains live, and one team has a 5-on-4 until the player who was knocked OOB gets up and rejoins the play. Does that change anyone's opinion from a no-call to a foul?

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

While I do understand the reasoning behind not calling the foul - (discounting the contact on the head) the contact didn't cause the blocked shot, and neither player was going to retrieve the ball before going OOB - would it make a difference if there was another defender standing right along the endline, and they managed to catch the ball before it went OOB? Now the ball remains live, and one team has a 5-on-4 until the player who was knocked OOB gets up and rejoins the play. Does that change anyone's opinion from a no-call to a foul?

There you go, getting logical again, M&M.

By the way, thought I'd finally get to see you Sunday ... was watching the Super Bowl and during one of the commercials I went to grab something to eat and my wife called out, "Hey, look, there's that M&M Guy again." No striped shirt, though.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

While I do understand the reasoning behind not calling the foul - (discounting the contact on the head) the contact didn't cause the blocked shot, and neither player was going to retrieve the ball before going OOB - would it make a difference if there was another defender standing right along the endline, and they managed to catch the ball before it went OOB? Now the ball remains live, and one team has a 5-on-4 until the player who was knocked OOB gets up and rejoins the play. Does that change anyone's opinion from a no-call to a foul?

No it does not change anything I feel about the play. The player fell because he had a defender block his shot. Not necessarily because of contact afterward. Players fall and we do not call fouls all the time. That is not the reason to call a foul or not call a foul.

Peace