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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 04:15pm
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The fact that the defender's body went toward the guard and he is responsible for the contact even after the block.

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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 04:51pm
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Two shots..

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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 05:08pm
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Rufus nailed it.

These are the kind of fouls some people hate, because they believe the play is over once the ball is away. Sometimes I wish there were a more specific rule for plays like these, to get everyone on the same page.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 05:10pm
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Rufus nailed it.

These are the kind of fouls some people hate, because they believe the play is over once the ball is away. Sometimes I wish there were a more specific rule for plays like these, to get everyone on the same page.
It is real simple. Call what is expected in your area. That is what I am going to do. This is not a foul for me at any level, not with the players I see.

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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 06:33pm
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I'm not saying I'd be right, but I'd most likely rule a foul on this play. A defender can't simply run through an airborne shooter just because the try itself is over.
+1 I'll call this a foul any day!
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 06:37pm
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It is real simple. Call what is expected in your area. That is what I am going to do. This is not a foul for me at any level, not with the players I see.

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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 09:06pm
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Foul any day of the week.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 09:57pm
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Lets see. The ball has been blocked before any contact occurs. Neither player then has an immediate play on a ball that is going to be dead anyway. Contact to not clearly and immediately disadvantage anyone, since the shot has already been blocked and ball is on its way to the third row anyway. I wouldn't say contact like this is going to lead to rough play, . . . I've got no foul.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 10:32pm
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Lets see. The ball has been blocked before any contact occurs. Neither player then has an immediate play on a ball that is going to be dead anyway. Contact to not clearly and immediately disadvantage anyone, since the shot has already been blocked and ball is on its way to the third row anyway. I wouldn't say contact like this is going to lead to rough play, . . . I've got no foul.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 10:37pm
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In my college conferences my supervisors would not want a foul called on this play.

In HS, if I were in position to see the hit to the head I would call a foul. Would not call a foul at either level for the body contact.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 10:41pm
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A has a right to not have to land on his head.
He also has the right to remain silent, right to positive learning environment, and a vast array of others . . . these don't mean that how he lands because of contact (after the ball is on its way out of bounds that doesn't disadvantage him or his team) needs to be called a foul. He could try out for the cheerleading team if how he lands may/may not incur a foul.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 11:04pm
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How about posting a clip of what you would call a foul! You must reff in the Army or for the Navy Seals!!
I do not have to prove anything to you. It is not a foul at the levels I work. If you want to call that, go right ahead. But you will be suspect if you call that where I work and not expect some body contact on blocked shots. Never been reprimanded for not calling this a foul.

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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 11:37pm
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 11:39pm
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With this much contact it is not a stretch to call a foul even if the contact was after the ball is completely out of play, which it clearly was not in the OP.
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Old Wed Feb 09, 2011, 01:00am
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Foul

Good block, but i would not argue with anyone if they call it a foul. One of those judgment calls.
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