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How does this happen? 100 HS V + college + adult
rec league? (Maybe I ain't working hard enough?) FWIW, if a player wants to chew gum I ain't gonna be the guy who tells him to spit it out. If you're athletic enough to chew gum & walk you're welcome to stay in my game I work a couple of differnt associations as a rule, am available around the clock and willing to travel. It isn't always easy to get them but you can do it. Of course, you don't have much of a life outside of officiating either, but hey.....I am single and enjoy doing it. I have worked as many as 4 varsity games a day, 2 in the AM and 2 at night. It doesn't put that much strain on you if you are in shape, and running is easy for me. My local association realistically expects a level 3 official (we rank from 1 down to 5) or above, to work at least 60 varsity contests each season. We have approximately 160 officials working. You have to live or travel to where the games are at and it works out. As for your choice on gum, more power to you. Like I have said, it is your choice unless you are like me and the associations that I have worked with.......don't allow it. Multiple states have refused to allow the player to chew gum, and some of those states are included in those who say they won't do it. When your assignor or assocation tells you to do the little things, that is just one way to step up to the higher level. I have called state finals in 2 states and regionals in another 3. Sometimes you have to do what the boss wants even though it sounds stupid. |
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2) Yes, chewing gum while playing basketball is not a smart thing to do. My wife and I do not allow our sons to chew gum while playing any of the sports in which they participate. BUT, there is nothing in the Elastic Clauses of the rules per NFHS, NCAA, FIBA, or NBA/WNBA, that gives the Referee the authority to prohibit the chewing gum by the players. Furthermore there is nothing in any of the rules codes that prohibites the chewing of gum by the players PERIOD. If I were a player and you told me to take stop chewing my gum, I would be very tempted to tell you to tak a long walk off a short pier. In a note to Bard: NFHS R3-S7 does not cover chewing gum. 3) I do not know of any StateHSAA that bans players from chewing gum while playing basketball. I know that the OhioHSAA and MichiganHSAA does not, and I have checked with my friends in Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, Florida, and South Carolina, and these states do not either. 4) When it comes to a player chewing gum, do what Oprah says: "Don't go there girl." 4) I officiate between 350 and 400 basketball games every year at all levels from middle school to college, CYO, AAU, YBOA. And I am a bald old geezer.
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3) I do not know of any StateHSAA that bans players from chewing gum while playing basketball. I know that the OhioHSAA and MichiganHSAA does not, and I have checked with my friends in Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, Florida, and South Carolina, and these states do not either
I can tell you point blank that you are wrong about at least one of these states you just listed. I just last week attended the mandatory rules clinic, and.....it is not allowed. I am not going to debate this any further, if you want to allow it, go ahead. I am not and I am comfortable in the knowledge that what I am doing is by the direction of the state and my association. I have never rung up a T on gum, but if a player tells me to take a hike over it, I just might do that....right over to the coach and inform him that player A1 is gone for a flagrant followed by the obligatory 2 shots and the ball to B. Call your game, and I will call mine. I must be doing something right, I have more requests for work than I could possibly fill. Maybe Rut is right when he goes on and on about court presence and people management. MAN!, now you have me agreeing with Rut, what would yaworski say about that? |
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it's a matter of being available for 100 HS V games a season. I work more leagues than I care to admit to, I've never come close to working 100 *real* games a year, college included. If I include camps, rec, etc then sure, but 100 *real* games? BTW, congrats on your state finals, but if I'm the R during a game we work together you ain't sending anyone off for chewing gum. FWIW
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I just last week attended the mandatory rules clinic, and.....it is not allowed.
You mean they actually talked about chewing gum at your rules clinic? That was actually a topic? Come on. This whole thread is just a big joke right? We've been had right? Tell us some states that instruct you to make players get rid of their gum. And I'm with Dan if you really are serious. If you are my partner for the championship game and you start talking about making players get rid of their gum, I'm going to find a nice comfortable place under the bleachers to hide. Z |
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Please tell me under what NFHS or NCAA rule that gives the officials the authority to tell players that they cannot chew gum while playing?
I think it's pretty straight forward from some officials, Mark. This falls under Safety Concerns, 3-7. While 3-7 specifies hair and fingernails, it clearly does not rule out gum. Gum! Gum! I like gum. Do you like gum? Are you telling me that I cannot chew gum while playing basketball? Not! The next thing you are going to tell me is SAFETY ? Well what about low cut basketball shoes? Shouldn't that be a safety issue for sprain ankles ? Rule 2 section 3 ??? Duh?
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a)Chewing gum presents a risk to players other than the one chewing it? b)If all of Team A is chewing gum, you will instruct them to remove it. If they refuse what are you going to do? Abandon the game? As far as players deliberatly faking injuries, or intentionally dropping gum on the floor - I'm not scared, I'll T them up so fast they head will spin. But why go looking for problems? I play basketball, and have been chewing gum in every game that I have played in the last 15 years (several hundred games). I have NEVER accidentally swalloed my gum, nor have I ever dropped it on the floor.
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![]() Seriously, though, I agree with just about everything Dan said. I have never had, seen, or even heard of a problem with a player chewing gum, going back 20 years to when I was a HS player myself. I would be shocked if any state HS association has passed a provision banning chewing gum from basketball competition. Like Dan, if I'm the R, we're not telling anybody to get rid of it. Lastly, in my association, we're not allowed to work more than one HS Varsity contest in one day (unless there are unforseen, unavoidable circumstances). So the most HS V games I've ever worked in season is 34. Throw in 15 college games (including juco) and a Freshman game as a favor to the assignor, and I do a max of about 50 games a season. chuck [Edited by ChuckElias on Oct 23rd, 2002 at 09:51 AM]
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