Worst luck ever

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by representing

Doctors get paid a ****load of money.

Hey! My daughter's in medical school. Four years, at $50,000.00 per year, all paid for with student loans. By the time she ready to practice after her residency, (80 hour workweeks) she deserves a ****load of money.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

Unless of course, you are open on the date the game is rescheduled & the site changes to the Pepsi Center

Nice. When is that one?

[Adam]

No, I don't wish we would get paid, because that pay would come with some strings.

[tref]

Monday 2/7 3pm

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by representing

This is about $200 I missed out on in 5 days. I really do have the worst luck ever. And the worst part is the two JV games won't be made up because the Varsity games played on, and the FR/JV doubleheader was postponed to a day I'm already officiating.

You really are a rookie, aren't you?

It has nothing to do with luck. We all have games that are cancelled.

You make up for it when you get a call for a fill-in.

Anyone else feel like we should still be compensated at least half of the referee fee for games cancelled due to reasons other than weather or other major problems like electricity went out, flooding in school because of a plumbing problem, etc.? This really pisses me off that I missed out on $200 in 5 days.

No, absolutely not.

If you leave home on your way to a game and they cancel, yes, you should receive half fee.

If you arrive at the school and they have to cancel after you arrive, you should receive half game fee.

If you arrive at the school and find they cancelled but didn't call you, you should be paid the full fee.

If you start the game and it has to be cancelled, you should be paid the full fee.

But if they cancel and inform you properly, you're entitled to zero compensation.

But cancellations are never made up and the school would gain that money.

Dude, it's their money.

Besides that, they lose money too. Gate and concessions.

You really need to let it go. It's gonna happen, to all of us.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

If you arrive at the school and they have to cancel after you arrive, you should receive half game fee.

This is a full game fee in my world. If this was a half fee, baseball teams would let the umpires show up and then cancel, shrug, and pay us $30.

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by representing

i thought $52 was low! It's low compared to other leagues within 50 miles i think.

we get $45 thanks to a $5 increase this year.

[BktBallRef]

The items I listed are NCHSAA policy.

If we show up for a football game, take the fieldm and then a breaker blows on the electrical panel that controls the stadium lights, we get half fee. If we've kicked off, we get full fee.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

This is a full game fee in my world. If this was a half fee, baseball teams would let the umpires show up and then cancel, shrug, and pay us $30.

Why would they do this? Why would they schedule you, just to let you show up, not play and pay you $30?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

The items I listed are NCHSAA policy.

If we show up for a football game, take the fieldm and then a breaker blows on the electrical panel that controls the stadium lights, we get half fee. If we've kicked off, we get full fee.



Why would they do this? Why would they schedule you, just to let you show up, not play and pay you $30?

ADs who don't want to make a decision. Even now, when we get a full fee, we've arrived knowing conditions aren't going to let us play.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by representing

This is about $200 I missed out on in 5 days. I really do have the worst luck ever.

If you think losing $200 is the worst luck ever, you've led a pretty sheltered and painfree life. (Maybe becasue your you're very, very young)

I wish the worst loss I had over something was just $200.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by representing

DAMN EXPECTED SNOWSTORM BETTER SHOW UP!

Here in NVA/DC (home to exceptional weathermen) we're getting very chilly RAIN. All schools closed and night activities cancelled.

I lost two (FB/JVB).

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

ADs who don't want to make a decision. Even now, when we get a full fee, we've arrived knowing conditions aren't going to let us play.

Well, that's just stupid. If I know we aren't going to play, I'm sure gonna call and cancel so I don't have to pay you.

[representing]

$200 is a lot to me right now. I just turned 26 last week, I can't get a damn job because of this economy the way it is, and I got a bunch of credit card bills and student loans to pay. I'm not saying I'm in this job just for the money, but it does help to make money when you do a service. I need this money.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by representing

$200 is a lot to me right now. I just turned 26 last week, I can't get a damn job because of this economy the way it is, and I got a bunch of credit card bills and student loans to pay. I'm not saying I'm in this job just for the money, but it does help to make money when you do a service. I need this money.

The nature of the "job" is while you make decent money for your time, there is inherent risk that you'll have this happen.

[CMHCoachNRef]

Originally Posted by representing

Anyone else feel like we should still be compensated at least half of the referee fee for games cancelled due to reasons other than weather or other major problems like electricity went out, flooding in school because of a plumbing problem, etc.? This really pisses me off that I missed out on $200 in 5 days.

Personally, I do think that you should get compensated SOMETHING for the lost revenue opportunity. As an independent contractor, you COULD have found a revenue opportunity SOMEWHERE ELSE with reasonable lead time. ESPECIALLY since the game was canceled for non-weather-related reasons very late in the going.

At the same time, a contract is created between you, the independent contractor, and the school. In some cases, there very well may be language that includes getting paid/partially paid under certain circumstances. We typically get paid for a soccer game (even if the game gets canceled before kickoff, if we showed up for the game) in some leagues. BUT, it is dependent upon the agreement that the league/school has in these cases.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

You know, there's a contract somewhere that spells out when you get paid or don't get paid. Either you hold that contract (like I do here in WI) or your assignor does.

The only times I ever get paid for a game not worked is during baseball season when the home team fails to cancel and we drive to the field and it's unplayable (or a storm hits before the game starts).

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Scuba_ref

Maybe if you didn't do it for the money you wouldn't get so upset...I'm just saying

Scuba_ref,
ONE of the reasons VIRTUALLY ALL of us officiate is the money. If you argue with this point, my question is, "Do you always RETURN your game fee after the game is over?" If the answer is, "No." Then ONE of the reasons you officiate is to put some money in your pocket.

Originally Posted by Dave9819

So, if you cancel your doctor's appointment a day or so ahead of time because you feel better, should you be forced to pay the doctor half an appointment fee?

No, we don't, but perhaps, we should. This is ONE reason why healthcare costs are as high as they are -- no-shows and no-pays....