Team Control Mechanic Not Authorized in Ohio

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by jhc2010

This is from the Ohio High School Official Association. They do not allow their officials to use the punch for a team control foul and require officials to go against the NFHS mechanics manual and go behind the head when calling an illegal screen.

"Several questions have been raised concerning the proper signal for a “team control” foul. There has been no change from the previous years. In Ohio, we will continue to use signal #34 for both TEAM and PLAYER control fouls. We will NOT use signal #35 for TEAM control fouls. Again, there is no change from past years."

http://www.ohsaa.org/officials/Offic...TER%202011.pdf

They go on to say later in the Winter Bulletin they issued today:
"Please adhere to the mechanics as outlined in the NF Officials Manual. One of our major goals for the officiating program is consistency in mechanics throughout the state. There is no place for individual preferences and modifications of the mechanics either by association or conference.

What's up with this?

No idea...and evidently, no one else here does either.

[BillyMac]

"I have already received a report regarding an official, who, while on the court and supposedly officiating a scrimmage, was also texting! This is totally unacceptable behavior."

I thought Mark Padgett lived in Oregon, not Ohio.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"I have already received a report regarding an official, who, while on the court and supposedly officiating a scrimmage, was also texting! This is totally unacceptable behavior."

I thought Mark Padgett lived in Oregon, not Ohio.

In my defense, I was posting the play to this forum so I wouldn't forget it.

[Welpe]

I'm surprised Lord Byon has not chimed in yet.

[BillyMac]

"Finally, extra caution should be taken when getting involved with Facebook or other internet social media. Officials should never be making attempts to befriend players, in particular, of the opposite gender."

Ohio officials have to be told this ????

[BillyMac]

"A has the ball out of bounds for a throw in. Four team A players line up along the free throw lane in a very close line. (they are spooning) B1 forces his way between two of the team A players."

Can't wait for Mark Padgett to get his hands on this one.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Either that or practicing to be IAABO members when they grow up.

We don't modify mechanics. We have our own stoopid IAABO mechanics.

[Welpe]

And suddenly I have this image of BillyMac in a bathrobe with a half consumed bottle of wine on his desk giggling at his computer monitor.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

It just looks silly.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Welpe

And suddenly I have this image of BillyMac in a bathrobe with a half consumed bottle of wine on his desk giggling at his computer monitor.

Sorry. I didn't realize my webcam was on.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

We don't modify mechanics. We have our own stoopid IAABO mechanics.

That was point, William. Ohio and IAABO both feel free to make up their very own mechanics.

Now ask me if I care.

[CMHCoachNRef]

Originally Posted by jhc2010

This is from the Ohio High School Official Association. They do not allow their officials to use the punch for a team control foul and require officials to go against the NFHS mechanics manual and go behind the head when calling an illegal screen.

"Several questions have been raised concerning the proper signal for a “team control” foul. There has been no change from the previous years. In Ohio, we will continue to use signal #34 for both TEAM and PLAYER control fouls. We will NOT use signal #35 for TEAM control fouls. Again, there is no change from past years."

http://www.ohsaa.org/officials/Offic...TER%202011.pdf

They go on to say later in the Winter Bulletin they issued today:
"Please adhere to the mechanics as outlined in the NF Officials Manual. One of our major goals for the officiating program is consistency in mechanics throughout the state. There is no place for individual preferences and modifications of the mechanics either by association or conference.

What's up with this?

This has been the mechanic since the Team Control foul was created several years ago. The main reason for the mechanic was that scorers AND OFFICIALS know that no free throws are taken when the player control signal is given. To serve as a reminder to the officials that Team Control fouls are non-free throw shooting situations, they elected to go with this mechanic. Ironically, I have frequently seen officials use a combination of signals #34 and #35 when reporting both player control fouls and team control fouls.

Interestingly, I observed a boys varsity game in the premier conference in Central Ohio earlier in the year. The officials did NOT use the OHSAA mechanic OR the NFHS mechanic when calling a team control foul.....and, ended up shooting free throws....doh!!!!!!!!!!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Ohio and IAABO both feel free to make up their very own mechanics.

Hey. It's a free country.

Well, at least most of the countries served by IAABO are free.

I think?

Bermuda? Japan? Philippines? Korea?

Do we have IAABO boards in North Korea?

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"Finally, extra caution should be taken when getting involved with Facebook or other internet social media. Officials should never be making attempts to befriend players, in particular, of the opposite gender."

Ohio officials have to be told this ????

It might be part of the "Don't talk to the media" and maintain neutrality mantra and got misworded or we got some people trying get a bit too friendly.

We got an email this week from our association secretary to have clothes on when working with female officials, AD's, and team personal, not quite sure who around here is doing this but it makes you wonder...


The JV thing is nice but doesnt quite address the question our association sent them. Which is how does this count for player's quarter limit and if "overtime" in this case is counted as an extension of the last quarter or counts as another quarter against the player's limit.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

On my bang-bang PC fouls, my prelim on the spot is to point the other direction (index finger).
On team control fouls I sometimes punch, sometimes point, on the spot.

Trying to find which illustration in the back of the book legitimizes an index finger point. Am I missing something here?

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Just whatever feels natural at that moment.

Oh, that clarifies it.