Roll over = travel

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

1) 4.44.5 SITUATION B: A1 dives for a loose ball and slides after gaining control. A1 is in a position either on his/her back or stomach. What can A1 do without violating?

Once A1 has the ball and is no longer sliding, he/she may not roll over.

What can A1 not do?
He/she may not roll over.


2) There's nothing that says A1 can roll over on his/her side if A1 is on his/her back or stomach.

1) Yup, I agree that the player can't roll over without traveling. I'm already on record as saying that.

2) There's nothing there either that says A1 can't roll onto their side. Rolling onto their side isn't rolling over imo. If you roll over from your back, you end up on your stomach. Conversely, if you roll over from your stomach, you end up on your back. You're adding something that is not definitively laid out in the case play.

Here endeth the lesson.

We disagree. And until the FED gives us a clarification, I guess we'll still be disagreeing.

And for the record, I agree with Nevada most of the time. I think he's a very knowledgable official. It's only when he gets carried away with some of his strict law'n'order stuff that I really have to disagree with him. Vehemently. But that's also only my opinion. Hell, fwiw Jeff Rutledge and I have been fighting over some things for 10 years now and if I'm lucky we'll spend another 10 years fighting over 'em, but I still very much agree with and respect the great majority of his answers. Don't tell him that though. Takes all the fun out of arguing.