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Old Mon Dec 20, 2010, 04:10pm
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Rules citation?

Hey, Martha Stewart does it all the time. And she never went to the Big House for that. Other things? Well, yeah....but it doesn't make her a bad person. And she did knit new handcuffs for all the screws while she was there.

It's the only way to go imo. I do it all the time. Out in public too- right on my bbq for anyone to see.

How to Spatchcock a Turkey - Martha Stewart Recipes

Cooking is my life!
OoooooH. No wonder my wife started yelling at me for putting the bird in back of my rear tire before throwing it into reverse.....
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Old Mon Dec 20, 2010, 04:15pm
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If I lift my left shoulder and left butt cheek off the floor, I'm not lying flat on my back anymore, so that would be rolling onto my side, would it not?
Not unless your side is on your right butt cheek. It is not that difficult for an average person to tell if someone is on their side or back.

If they were to relax, where would their body settle...to the back or to the side. That should give you the answer.
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Hey, Martha Stewart does it all the time.
Cooking is my life!

Do we detect a little lust in this post?
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Old Mon Dec 20, 2010, 04:19pm
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For Martha Stewart or the turkey?


if you can tell them apart.....
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Old Mon Dec 20, 2010, 04:25pm
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Soooooo......

A player on their back who rolls on their side during the act of passing the ball to a teammate should be called for traveling if their side hits before the ball is released?
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Old Mon Dec 20, 2010, 04:45pm
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Old Mon Dec 20, 2010, 06:55pm
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Soooooo......

A player on their back who rolls on their side during the act of passing the ball to a teammate should be called for traveling if their side hits before the ball is released?
And on a now related note, if he rolls onto Martha or the turkey, that's just wrong.
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Old Mon Dec 20, 2010, 07:14pm
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Soooooo......

A player on their back who rolls on their side during the act of passing the ball to a teammate should be called for traveling if their side hits before the ball is released?
Your premise is that they've rolled.

We don't excuse a travel just because a player is trying to pass to ball but doesn't release it until just after the pivot foot lands.

Why would we in this case?
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Your premise is that they've rolled.

We don't excuse a travel just because a player is trying to pass to ball but doesn't release it until just after the pivot foot lands.

Why would we in this case?
Nope, my premise is that they didn't roll over. Iow I don't think that's traveling by rule. You do.

And therein lies the rub...
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If I lift my left shoulder and left butt cheek off the floor, I'm not lying flat on my back anymore, so that would be rolling onto my side, would it not?
I explained to someone else in my next post that I was being somewhat sarcastic, but the point still holds true. I'm not making things up. If you lay flat on your back and start to roll to your right by lifting your left shoulder and left butt cheek off the floor, you're going to be on your side rather quickly.

I can lie on my back and lift my shoulder all day without rolling over on my side.

Read the case play that I posted and under the ruling where it says what the player is ALLOWED to do, show me where it says he can roll over on his side.

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I'm addressing credibility on this board, not on the basketball floor. Any credibility you might have had with me, you lost with your fanboy posts concerning NFL officials on the Football forum.

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And on a now related note, if he rolls onto Martha or the turkey, that's just wrong.
A menage a trois turkeys?
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Old Mon Dec 20, 2010, 07:52pm
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Have a great Christmas! You gonna spatchcock your turkey?
If that's anything like frying one, YES.
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If that's anything like frying one, YES.
I'm not sure whether spatchcocking a turkey before frying would make any difference. Spatchcocking is just taking out the turkey's backbone and flattening the bird before cooking. It cuts the cooking time by about 2/3 for roasting or BBQing. We tried it for the first time last Christmas and were amazed at how quickly the bird cooked. My wife roasts the bigger ones (over 20 lbs.) in the oven and I like to BBQ smaller turkeys every now and then. Never really tried to fry one but I can't see how spatchcocking would help in that case. Do you use a turkey fryer or just a large stock pot?
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