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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 03:46pm
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You're saying he might have lied, then, based on nothing but conjecture.

Allow me to summarize your statements. Don't worry, I'll try to be charitable.

"It just seems fishy. Maybe the official lied. Maybe he's just wrong."

Has the coach or player even denied making the verbal request?

If the evidence shows the official lied, I'll dump on him.
Snaq you're exactly right. Where's the crime in this? Why are you getting on me for throwing possibilities out there? That's all I'm doing.
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 03:51pm
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Snaq you're exactly right. Where's the crime in this? Why are you getting on me for throwing possibilities out there? That's all I'm doing.
No crime, fanboy. Officials expect that treatment. It comes with the territory.

And we officials are territorial.
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 04:03pm
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No crime, fanboy. Officials expect that treatment. It comes with the territory.

And we officials are territorial.
Damn right we are. I just don't get why nobody else can acknowledge the fact that there are other possibilities. We don't get everything right all the time.
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 04:26pm
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Damn right we are. I just don't get why nobody else can acknowledge the fact that there are other possibilities. We don't get everything right all the time.
If we know that an official screwed up, we do discuss it, see if we can learn from it and maybe even dump a l'il on the poor goober that screwed up. We all screw up at some time; that's a given.

What most of usually don't do is crap on any official without hearing their side of the story or having some kinda actual proof that they really did screw up.

Try putting yourself in that official's position. You may have made the absolutely correct call in your mind and know for a fact that a TO was requested by the team that didn't have one left, but people are crapping on you without asking you for the details. Or, if you do give someone the details, they just simply say "I don't believe that", just like you're doing now.

That's where we're coming from.
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 04:48pm
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I'm right with you guys. No doubt about it.

All I'm doing is throwing out possible explanations for what happened...nothing more. I'm done arguing about this because I've said all I can say.
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 04:55pm
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I'm right with you guys. No doubt about it.

All I'm doing is throwing out possible explanations for what happened...nothing more. I'm done arguing about this because I've said all I can say.
I can ask one of the officials directly if you like. I did not see the game and there is no guarantee that person will tell me what happened as they are not obligated. But I sure can ask.

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Old Wed Nov 17, 2010, 09:25am
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I can ask one of the officials directly if you like. I did not see the game and there is no guarantee that person will tell me what happened as they are not obligated. But I sure can ask.
Heck, one of those officials used to post here for a while. Maybe he'll come back just to discuss the play!!
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 04:04pm
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Snaq you're exactly right. Where's the crime in this? Why are you getting on me for throwing possibilities out there? That's all I'm doing.
Honestly, because you're dumping on an official without evidence. You have the "right" to do it, and I have the "right" to call you out for it. There's nothing that suggests the officials' story is anything less than truthful, so why offer conjecture that casts them as dishonest and incompetent? I just don't understand that desire.
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